UEFA handed out two additional fines: One €26K fine for people standing on the stairs and another €8K fine for lighting two flares in the crowd.

  • PhillipLlerenas@fediverser.communick.devBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Did Ukrainian spend the last 100 years murdering Russian civilians? Did Ukrainian groups attack Russian civilians in cafes and buses? Did Ukrainian groups attack schools and murder Russian children? Did Ukrainian groups snipe Russian babies?

    Did a Ukrainian militia rampage through a Russian town raping Russian women on top of the bodies of their murdered friends, tie children and parents together and the burn them alive while live-streaming it?

    No?

    Then the two situations aren’t remotely the same.

      • superfire444@fediverser.communick.devBEnglish
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        11 months ago

        Hamas are the current government of Gaza. Of course it equals Palestine.

        What you meant is does it equal all Palestinians and then it’s obviously no.

      • PhillipLlerenas@fediverser.communick.devBEnglish
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        11 months ago

        Nope.

        You don’t get to justify the murder and rape of 1,000 Israelis who were also not their government and then try to do the opposite with Gaza.

        Not to mention the fact that Hamas enjoys way more support from Palestinians than the current government of Israel gets from its citizens.

        Palestinians by and large support terrorism against Jewish civilians.

        Why do you think there were celebrations in the West Bank when they found out about the rape and murder and immolation of Israeli women and children?

        • blubber_confused@fediverser.communick.devBEnglish
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          11 months ago

          Yes, but those 1000 Israelis that were murdered were settlers living on illegally claimed land. They were not ‘innocent’ in the fact that they knew living there meant displacing the Palestinian, they are given subsidies by the Israeli government to be there. The most ironic issue was having a ‘Peace’ festival on land that was illegally settled under International Law.

          No one wants to murder and kill, death is abhorrent to any human, but all legal measures in order to gain basic human rights were denied unless they take shitty deals presented to them by Israel and the wider international community. Of course they will turn to violence. It’s so not surprising this is happening at all if you had a shred of empathy.

    • Oggie243@fediverser.communick.devBEnglish
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      11 months ago

      Did Ukrainian spend the last 100 years murdering Russian civilians? Did Ukrainian groups attack Russian civilians in cafes and buses? Did Ukrainian groups attack schools and murder Russian children? Did Ukrainian groups snipe Russian babies?

      These things have also been carried out against Palestinians too. You’re either doing this in deliberate bad faith or you’re being unbelievably blinkered. Like literally all of this has happened in Palestine in the last 36 months. You don’t have to go back a century.