UEFA handed out two additional fines: One €26K fine for people standing on the stairs and another €8K fine for lighting two flares in the crowd.

  • SeyamTheDaddy@fediverser.communick.devB
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    11 months ago

    A foreign power with huge military reserves indiscriminately bombing civilians?

    What hamas did was unequivocally wrong but to say it was unprovoked is a total lie when literally this year the finance minister of Israel called for the massacre of a Palestinian village to make room for more illegal settlements.

    • PhillipLlerenas@fediverser.communick.devB
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      11 months ago

      Hamas leaders call for massacres of Jews literally daily.

      But I forgot that crimes in the Middle East are only crimes with Jews do it.

      When Arabs do it it’s “resistance”

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      11 months ago

      The huge lie is you claiming Israel is just indiscriminately bombing civilians for the heck of it.

      Also, I didn’t say it was unprovoked and Israel didn’t call for massacres.

      Basically, your whole post is bullshit.

      • -dsh@fediverser.communick.devB
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        11 months ago

        israeli spokesperson say different.

        “the focus is on destruction, not accuracy” - daniel hagari, spokesmen of the israeli army

        “we will turn gaza into an island of ruins” - netanyahu

        “now there is only one goal: nakba. a nakba in gaza that will dward the nakba of 1948” - ariel kallner

        “wipe out their families, their mothers and their children” - ezra yachin

        “powerful rockets to be fired without borders, gaza to be smashed and razed to the ground. without mercy” - tally gotliv

        “there will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, no everything. we are fighting animal people” - yoav gallant

        “i dont care about gaza. i literally don’t care about gaza. they can go swimming in the sea” - maya golan

        • PhillipLlerenas@fediverser.communick.devB
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          11 months ago

          Sweet. You can find a bunch of angry extremists saying provocative bullshit.

          Now let’s do the Palestinians:

          ”Whoever is killed by a Jew receives the reward of two martyrs, because the very thing that the Jews did to the prophets was done to him.

          ”The Jews are the most despicable and contemptible nation to crawl upon the face of the Earth, because they have displayed hostility to Allah.

          ”Allah will kill the Jews in the hell of the world to come, just like they killed the believers in the hell of this world.

          ”The Jews kill anyone who believes in Allah. They do not want to see any peace whatsoever on Earth."

          Sermon delivered by 'Atallah Abu Al-Subh, former Hamas minister of culture, which aired on Al-Agsa TV, April 8, 2011

          ”the Jewish faith does not wish for peace nor stability, since it is a faith that is based on murder: 'I kill, therefore I am… Israel is based only on blood and murder in order to exist, and it will disappear, with Allah’s will, through blood and Shahids [martyrs]."

          Dr. Yusuf Al-Sharafi, Hamas representative, April 12, 2007;

          The economic crisis is the result of “bad administrative and financial management and a bad banking system put into place and controlled by the Jewish lobby.”

          The Jewish lobby controls the U.S. elections and defines the foreign policy of any new administration in a manner that allows it to retain control of the American government and economv."

          Hamas Spokesman Fawzi Barhum, October 7, 2008;

          ”By God, we will not leave one Jew in Palestine. We will fight them with all the strength we have. This is our land, not the Jews…

          Abdel Aziz Rantisi, Hamas leader, June 10, 2003, interview with Al-Jazeera,

          ”Come to jihad, come to jihad, come to martyrdom… “Those thirsty for Jihad all over the world. For the sake of Allah. For liberating the land of Palestine and Jerusalem…”

          ”We declared and continue to declare now, that a Jew is a Jew… [do not trust them when they say they want peace because they act only] to serve their religion and their people."

          Hamas communiqué, March 9, 1989, translated and distributed in the U.S. by the Islamic Association for Palestine

          ”The Jews: killed the prophets…slaughtered the innocent……imprisoned our pious… NO PEACE WITH THE MURDERERS."

          Hamas communiqué, October 5, 1988, translated and distributed in the U.S. by the Islamic Association for Palestine

          • -dsh@fediverser.communick.devB
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            11 months ago

            You can find a bunch of angry extremists saying provocative bullshit.

            those angry extremists are, among others, the prime minister of israel, the defense minister of israel, the spokesperson of the israeli army and the minister for women’s affairs in israel.

            good job finding hamas quotes, at no point did i defend hamas tho.

            • PhillipLlerenas@fediverser.communick.devB
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              11 months ago

              And the angry extremists I quoted are the leaders of Gaza and 2 million Palestinians.

              Why is the bar so low for them?

              There’s no equivalency between Israel and murderous raping child burning terrorists.

              Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

        • -zimms-@fediverser.communick.devB
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          11 months ago

          What is this a reply to?

          What do you mean “westerners”? Do you think “Arab world” and “West” are two teams and you have to pick sides?

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            11 months ago

            I don’t think it’s fair to compare a highly advanced military with jets and nuclear bombs to a bunch of goons with tube rockets.

            One of them is capable of accuracy.

            And it doesn’t really absolve Israel of what they’ve been doing for so long doesn’t it?

            • PhillipLlerenas@fediverser.communick.devB
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              11 months ago

              This comparison is moronic: 20 times more Germans died during World War II than British people.

              It doesn’t make them the victims.

              Perhaps if Palestinian armed groups didn’t incessantly use their population as human shields and practice widespread use or child soldiers then their numbers wouldn’t be so high

              🤷‍♂️

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                11 months ago

                20 times more Germans died during World War II than British people

                germany attacked poland. israel was founded by western countries in the middle east and has ever since stolen more and more palestinian land. so much that they were called out on it by the UN and amnesty international dozens of times.

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        11 months ago

        I mean, they’re not indiscriminately bombing civilians “for the heck of it”, they’re indiscriminately bombing civilians because they’ want to wipe out the Palestinian people