@w0odl This is an interesting development. Will have to read through the petition. In the meantime, it’s a reminder that perhaps our HF #hamradio bands aren’t as secure as we might thinnk.
As long as corporations view it as a way to make more cash, it will never be safe. I’m really hoping the ARRL does what amateurs are paying it to do, and fight this tooth and nail. Sadly their track record doesn’t give me hope at all.
@Dusty@kb6nu Keep in mind that ARRL is limited by the amount of money we give them. It’s less than a drop in the bucket compared to what Verizon et. al. can pay for influence. Is this the fault of the ARRL, or the fault if the people that elect corruptible shills?
The ARRL’s track record is not a sign of failure by the ARRL. Given the resources they have to work with, and the willingness to cheat their adversaries possess, and our ability to elect criminals, they’ve been performimg miracles.
And those are the types of excuse that keep them from even trying. “Well you didn’t pay us enough, so we aren’t going to even try. By the way, your cost of membership are going up, because membership numbers are plummeting. Totally not our fault though.”
People (like me) are pretty fed up with the hands constantly being shoved asking for more, while getting less and less for what we give.
@Dusty This is what entitlement looks like, folks.
Seriously. If you think blaming the ARRL for being up against a corrupt and entrenched monopoly makes sense, you’re a fool. I’m sorry to be blunt, but there it is.
Representation is not a zero-sum game where you get exactly what you pay for. This is why our democracy has come so close to failing-and you’re part of the reason why.
Yes, I just said that. Think very carefully before you reply, please. For all of our sakes.
@w0odl Unfortunately, I can’t. If someone wants to treat the ARRL as the inept perpetrator of our current state I can’t stop them, but I WILL say it’s classic victim-blaming.
I AM being respectful. I have attacked no one based upon who they are, and the person claiming I was is wrong.I won’t sit around and let people attack the only collective voice we have on false pretense-if that offends you, that’s a YOU problem.
ARRL is our voice, and a reflection of our commitment to our hobby.
In this case, their time may be better spent finding allies with interests in stopping yet another ratcheting up of high-frequency trading, and the market volatility and unfairness that it creates. There are some deep-pocketed investors (pension funds?) and well respected economists that will be able to tug on the FCC’s ears better than the ARRL ever could, provided the ARRL can encourage them to do so.
Those types would normally be only concerned with the FTC, but in this case, they can make good cases to the FCC that this particular use of the spectrum has no public benefit.
@w0odl This is an interesting development. Will have to read through the petition. In the meantime, it’s a reminder that perhaps our HF #hamradio bands aren’t as secure as we might thinnk.
As long as corporations view it as a way to make more cash, it will never be safe. I’m really hoping the ARRL does what amateurs are paying it to do, and fight this tooth and nail. Sadly their track record doesn’t give me hope at all.
@Dusty @kb6nu Keep in mind that ARRL is limited by the amount of money we give them. It’s less than a drop in the bucket compared to what Verizon et. al. can pay for influence. Is this the fault of the ARRL, or the fault if the people that elect corruptible shills?
The ARRL’s track record is not a sign of failure by the ARRL. Given the resources they have to work with, and the willingness to cheat their adversaries possess, and our ability to elect criminals, they’ve been performimg miracles.
And those are the types of excuse that keep them from even trying. “Well you didn’t pay us enough, so we aren’t going to even try. By the way, your cost of membership are going up, because membership numbers are plummeting. Totally not our fault though.”
People (like me) are pretty fed up with the hands constantly being shoved asking for more, while getting less and less for what we give.
@Dusty This is what entitlement looks like, folks.
Seriously. If you think blaming the ARRL for being up against a corrupt and entrenched monopoly makes sense, you’re a fool. I’m sorry to be blunt, but there it is.
Representation is not a zero-sum game where you get exactly what you pay for. This is why our democracy has come so close to failing-and you’re part of the reason why.
Yes, I just said that. Think very carefully before you reply, please. For all of our sakes.
Let’s take this down a notch. Please refer to rule number 1
Be respectful of others
While not a mod of mastodon.radio, I want this to be civil.
@w0odl Unfortunately, I can’t. If someone wants to treat the ARRL as the inept perpetrator of our current state I can’t stop them, but I WILL say it’s classic victim-blaming.
I AM being respectful. I have attacked no one based upon who they are, and the person claiming I was is wrong.I won’t sit around and let people attack the only collective voice we have on false pretense-if that offends you, that’s a YOU problem.
ARRL is our voice, and a reflection of our commitment to our hobby.
“I AM being respectful.”
It’s just not the case. It’s ok to voice an opinion but we can do so in a manner that doesn’t attack other people, and you did in my opinion.
“This is why our democracy has come so close to failing-and you’re part of the reason why.
Yes, I just said that. Think very carefully before you reply”
That’s a threat.
Personal attacks. That’s the end of the conversation for me.
And threats as well with the “think carefully before you reply”. Great way to have a conversation.
In this case, their time may be better spent finding allies with interests in stopping yet another ratcheting up of high-frequency trading, and the market volatility and unfairness that it creates. There are some deep-pocketed investors (pension funds?) and well respected economists that will be able to tug on the FCC’s ears better than the ARRL ever could, provided the ARRL can encourage them to do so.
Those types would normally be only concerned with the FTC, but in this case, they can make good cases to the FCC that this particular use of the spectrum has no public benefit.
@kb6nu @w0odl
In support of high frequency trading. Is that a public good?
@silentLurker @kb6nu @w0odl
Stock market prices
not in the least… these encrypted transmissions only benefit the traders. making more wealth for the wealthy.