• insurrection@mstdn.social
      21·
      3 个月前

      >Letting animals be tortured and slaughtered en masse

      eating beans doesn’t stop this. vegans are letting them be slaughtered as well.

      • starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works
        32·
        3 个月前

        My options are

        A) raise cattle which, as there are not enough grassy pastures, I will have to grow food to feed, causing harm to lots of smaller animals and insects

        B) eat the food I was already growing, and I will have to cause about 1/4th the harm

        C) grow my own food and use fencing and netting to prevent as much harm as I can

        D) starve to death

        If you can’t do C because you don’t have the space or time, then I wouldn’t blame someone for picking “reduce harm as much as I can without starving to death.” Paying money to people who are engaging in factory farming is not on that same level.

          • starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works
            11·
            3 个月前

            So the factory farms abuse animals, but since the grocery store is paying them with money I gave the grocery store, it’s okay now. How could I know that paying for the product of the factory farm would make them buy more from that factory farm?

              • starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works
                1·
                3 个月前

                True that is a huge leap to say that if people purchase something consistently the grocery store will restock it. They will probably just leave those shelves empty once their current stock is gone.

            • insurrection@mstdn.social
              01·
              3 个月前

              unless you have a plan to get everyone to stop buying meat, this is moot.

              meat was produced before anyone bought meat. there is no reason to believe it would stop.

                • insurrection@mstdn.social
                  01·
                  3 个月前

                  >Don’t try to evade the question, give me a yes or no answer.

                  this is a classic indicator of a false dilemma.

                • insurrection@mstdn.social
                  01·
                  3 个月前

                  >The people eat meat and other animal products, the more animals will be killed to meet that demand.

                  not only is this not causal, it doesn’t even hold up. how many 8-Bit nintendos do I need to buy to get 8-bit nintendos back into production? how many Faberge eggs do I need to buy to put fabergé eggs back into production?

    • FelixCress@lemmy.worldOP
      12·
      3 个月前

      Letting animals be tortured and slaughtered en masse just to satisfy your trivial gustatory preferences

      And there you go:

      “Holier-than-thou vegans with pamphlet level arguments they force upon everybody are a problem.”

      People don’t share your dietary choices. Deal with it.