He was selling influence via his son though right? And he’s on camera bragging about bribing Ukraine to drop its investigation into Hunter, though I don’t know if the US would consider that a crime.
The selling influence stuff is tenuous if not impossible to prove as it’s mostly political speculation and the republicans doing their best to try and find a boogeyman. Plus even if it would 100% true; then everyone in congress would be guilty of that, and there’s no way they would want to risk setting a precedent.
Could you link the Ukraine video though by any chance? That sounds interesting.
He was on camera bragging at a public event how he blackmailed the Ukrainian government to fire Burisma’s prosecutor, while his son was a board member. The emails and witness testimonies are pretty conclusive.
There’s plenty of evidence. The problem is 1. Lack of political will to actually do anything substantial about it and 2. This is merely a political cudgel for the elections. The Republicans are using the impeachment in a cynical way to scare their potential voters back in line, and to keep discussion around Biden’s corruption going. A trick they aptly learned from the Democrats.
After the elections, whoever loses will be crying how the election was stolen from them, and the cycle will begin anew.
Btw, this is exactly how Roman politics devolved during Julius Caesar’s time and how they ended up with the dissolution of the republic by Octavian.
I’m not about to go on a 30-minute search online, only for you to come back and dispute it non-chalantly. If you are interested, find the full video, and the context behind it. This topic has been broadly covered.
You do realize that the prosecutor was fired only a year and a half after that meeting with Biden right?
If Biden was fuming to get the guy fired then a year and a half seems like he took his sweet ass time.
Plus that prosecutor wasn’t even the one investigating Hunter, it was the guy that replaced the fired one! So why would Biden be fine with the new guy opening an investigation but not the old guy who was corrupt as hell?
He got fired half a year after Biden said he asked for the guy to be fired. Why did they wait so long? Did they forget? If I was dead set on removing a threat, I wouldn’t wait a six months to get around to it.
Also Biden stated before that event where he “bragged” that he asked for the prosecutor to be sacked because he failed to investigate Burisma. Not because he was.
This is basic information you could find, its not that hard to google. Stop listening to talking heads on the news.
Plus the case had been shelved by the Ukrainian government in 2014. There was no active case going on, so what would be the point in axing the prosecutor?
So now we’re down to half a year from a year and a half and still no sources. I don’t know man, I’m going to trust Jim Crow Joe on this instead of you.
So, not that hard to Google that you weren’t able to?
No, his son was using his dad’s name to gain influence, but Biden had no involvement with those business deals. I’m not saying nepotism should be legal or that family members of political figures should be capable of benefiting from their relative, but there are no laws preventing this.
Oh yeah, there’s for sure a ton of bribery and corruption stuff related to Ukraine that they could get him on if they really tried. But personally i doubt this is more than the usual partisan political theatre. It’s called the uniparty for a reason, they may put on a show for the plebs but at the end of the day they stick together. If they do push Biden out it’s because both parties have agreed that it’s necessary for damage control, or to get an even bigger warhawk in there.
ton of bribery and corruption stuff related to Ukraine
Would you mind expanding on this? That was my actual question; the actual “investigation” being political theater is obvious even to members of Congress of both “parties”
I mean for one thing his ties to Burisma through his son and god knows how many other shady dealings in Ukraine, though to be fair probably half of Congress has their fingers in the dirty pie of Ukraine and profiting one way or another. But the fact that we now know for a fact that he pressured the Ukrainian government to fire the prosecutor looking into the very corruption the Bidens were involved in takes it one step further.
Meanwhile, other sources say this firing definitely was about ousting corruption in Ukraine (despite that this makes no sense in 2023 especially given the very obvious nature to everyone that Nazis are running rampant)
Biden, his staff, and other U.S. officials and experts have repeatedly said that Biden acted in line with U.S. policies to root out corruption in Ukraine when he conditioned a $1 billion loan guarantee in part on Shokin’s ouster.
Didn’t they impeach Trump for doing pretty much the exact same thing?
Since the U.S. is amazing at letting crimes against humanity happen legally, has Biden’s crimes broken any actual US law?
No. This is political theater and they know this will go absolutely nowhere.
He was selling influence via his son though right? And he’s on camera bragging about bribing Ukraine to drop its investigation into Hunter, though I don’t know if the US would consider that a crime.
The selling influence stuff is tenuous if not impossible to prove as it’s mostly political speculation and the republicans doing their best to try and find a boogeyman. Plus even if it would 100% true; then everyone in congress would be guilty of that, and there’s no way they would want to risk setting a precedent.
Could you link the Ukraine video though by any chance? That sounds interesting.
He was on camera bragging at a public event how he blackmailed the Ukrainian government to fire Burisma’s prosecutor, while his son was a board member. The emails and witness testimonies are pretty conclusive.
There’s plenty of evidence. The problem is 1. Lack of political will to actually do anything substantial about it and 2. This is merely a political cudgel for the elections. The Republicans are using the impeachment in a cynical way to scare their potential voters back in line, and to keep discussion around Biden’s corruption going. A trick they aptly learned from the Democrats.
After the elections, whoever loses will be crying how the election was stolen from them, and the cycle will begin anew.
Btw, this is exactly how Roman politics devolved during Julius Caesar’s time and how they ended up with the dissolution of the republic by Octavian.
Again “He’s caught in camera”, and “There is plenty of evidence” “emails and witness testimonies”
Can you please link your sources and the videos you are talking about???
Literally check the comment below you.
A Twitter clip out of context? That’s your evidence?
You made several claims that that clip doesn’t t support either. Cite your sources is it that hard?
I’m not about to go on a 30-minute search online, only for you to come back and dispute it non-chalantly. If you are interested, find the full video, and the context behind it. This topic has been broadly covered.
Jesus!
Here that video: https://twitter.com/newscoreca/status/1701731427434246220?t=yxv6Vc_cfqnE78IVTA3ABw&s=19
The word that gets cut off at the end is “solid”
You do realize that the prosecutor was fired only a year and a half after that meeting with Biden right?
If Biden was fuming to get the guy fired then a year and a half seems like he took his sweet ass time.
Plus that prosecutor wasn’t even the one investigating Hunter, it was the guy that replaced the fired one! So why would Biden be fine with the new guy opening an investigation but not the old guy who was corrupt as hell?
Did you just make all of this up? Did you not hear Biden bragging about getting him fired? Is Biden lying again?
He got fired half a year after Biden said he asked for the guy to be fired. Why did they wait so long? Did they forget? If I was dead set on removing a threat, I wouldn’t wait a six months to get around to it.
Also Biden stated before that event where he “bragged” that he asked for the prosecutor to be sacked because he failed to investigate Burisma. Not because he was.
This is basic information you could find, its not that hard to google. Stop listening to talking heads on the news.
Plus the case had been shelved by the Ukrainian government in 2014. There was no active case going on, so what would be the point in axing the prosecutor?
So now we’re down to half a year from a year and a half and still no sources. I don’t know man, I’m going to trust Jim Crow Joe on this instead of you.
So, not that hard to Google that you weren’t able to?
No, his son was using his dad’s name to gain influence, but Biden had no involvement with those business deals. I’m not saying nepotism should be legal or that family members of political figures should be capable of benefiting from their relative, but there are no laws preventing this.
Wasn’t there something about him having to give half of his earnings to Joe? I didn’t follow that.
Oh yeah, there’s for sure a ton of bribery and corruption stuff related to Ukraine that they could get him on if they really tried. But personally i doubt this is more than the usual partisan political theatre. It’s called the uniparty for a reason, they may put on a show for the plebs but at the end of the day they stick together. If they do push Biden out it’s because both parties have agreed that it’s necessary for damage control, or to get an even bigger warhawk in there.
Would you mind expanding on this? That was my actual question; the actual “investigation” being political theater is obvious even to members of Congress of both “parties”
I mean for one thing his ties to Burisma through his son and god knows how many other shady dealings in Ukraine, though to be fair probably half of Congress has their fingers in the dirty pie of Ukraine and profiting one way or another. But the fact that we now know for a fact that he pressured the Ukrainian government to fire the prosecutor looking into the very corruption the Bidens were involved in takes it one step further.
Interesting, turns out they actually are asking questions about that…
https://www.aol.com/weather/comer-digs-questions-biden-treatment-144459279.html
Meanwhile, other sources say this firing definitely was about ousting corruption in Ukraine (despite that this makes no sense in 2023 especially given the very obvious nature to everyone that Nazis are running rampant)
Didn’t they impeach Trump for doing pretty much the exact same thing?
Yup.
Having secret documents at his house?
That’s not illegal if you give them back when asked, since your original possession of the documents is not illegal due to your position.
That’s why they didn’t arrest Pence, Obama, Biden, or dozens of other politicians and generals.
Trump on the other hand kept them and then lied to the FBI that he didn’t have them. What the hell did Trump think would happen?