• Snowclone@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    No it’s not the same, it’s a totally different system as long as the labor doesn’t own the business they work for. Ten thousand different mechanisms to circumvent the ownership by private capital is still ownership by private capital and as America has demonstrated again and again, no battle is won by a vague circumventing of the major problem of exploitation, because all those mechanisms are quickly and easily removed by private capital the second they buy enough power to do so. Our entire economy is monopolizing at an alarming rate, this was illegal just a few decades ago, it’s now legal to hand politicians millions of dollars to do what they are told, this was illegal before Citizens United decision, also legal to bribe then to do your bidding openly as long as you only give them the money after they accomplish your task, and now unions are difficult to start and maintain this was a legally protected activity a few decades ago, all the circumventing is temporary and inefficient.

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      18 hours ago

      If we’re moving on from hypotheticals then it seems like welfare state approaches were far more effective when put into practice than things like the USSR.

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        17 hours ago

        Yeah for a while the work tax credit and child tax credit was my main income It paid more than my job, and a lot of corporate stock trade types like Warren Buffet advocated that was the solution to the capitalist problem of long term income stagnation and inequality, but it’s not around anyone, I can’t expect it to work after any election, and it is easy to lose it every four years. It doesn’t work not because of the factual outcome, it doesn’t work because it’s temporary and under constant attack. Unless we get laws that can’t be ended or argued without a very high majority of the legislator AND the states, can’t be thrown out by a renegade supreme court, or hand waved by executive orders, then it’s not worth the paper it’s printed on.