• Ocelot@lemmies.world
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    1 year ago

    all im asking for is some evidence of the bad. Nobody can provide it. It really shouldn’t be that hard.

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      1 year ago

      You were provided evidence and disregard it and make excuses for it. It’s hard to have a discussion if you just exclude all evidence for it.

      Think of it another way, you’re saying there’s absolutely no way that FSD has ever failed in its publicly available software, even with hundreds of thousands of cars on the road? Use a logic test on yourself and ask if that’s realistic.

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        1 year ago

        Fsd makes a TON of mistakes. I’ve had the beta from the first public release. I don’t trust it to do anything more than lane holding and cruise control, with maybe some supervised lane changes. But it’s a beta. I understand that I am helping to test beta software.

        FSD in its current form should not be given to everyone. Tesla had it right when they gave it only to proven drivers (okay, it would have been better to test with paid employees, but I digress).

        FSD right now is like handing the keys to your 15 year old child and going to sleep in the back while they drive you home.

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        1 year ago

        Can you point to this evidence as I don’t see it anywhere?

        Also busting out a strawman argument one reply in to the discussion isn’t a good sign for the strength of your argument.

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          1 year ago

          Look at the replies. I’m not going to sit and hand-pick them out for you, there’s plenty on there. Plenty of people either posting videos or stating first hand evidence of issues with FSD.

          Not sure where you see a strawman either. But whatever, if you aren’t seeing any evidence despite the many posts and don’t see how impossible a perfect record is then you won’t be convinced with any evidence regardless or are just a troll.

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            1 year ago

            I have looked at the replies and there are only a couple links about Autopilot crashes from users who think this is the same as FSD when it isn’t.

            Your strawman is claiming that this user is saying FSD is perfect and never had a failure. Nobody is arguing that. You guys keep mentioning all the deaths related to FSD, yet nobody has been able to provide a single one as evidence.

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              1 year ago

              I tried mate. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t force it to drink.

              I guess you’re right then, if we exclude all the videos since they’re not FSD related, and all the written testimonials about FSD not working because they’re just written after all, then looks like FSD is indeed perfect and has no possible evidence for malfunctions. Praise be to Elon.

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        1 year ago

        Please let me know where I stated anything inaccurate in the comment about the single incident that has been dug up in the 500k FSD cars and millions of miles traveled self-driving.

        Also lets please keep this civil and not be name-calling. I hate Elon as much as anyone else and he deserves pretty much all the hate he gets. However it doesn’t change facts. Its not like he was responsible for writing even a single line of code in FSD or even designed or built any of the cars himself.