• Piranha Phish@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Cathy?

    I see that you’re not interested in actual discourse and instead are just looking to be petty.

    So I’ll assume you’re also not arguing in good faith either, so I’ll just add some downvotes and move on.

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      4 days ago

      Cathy?

      You did a pretty good impression of her with the “so you’re saying” followed by something not even close to what I was saying, so I called a spade a spade. If you don’t like it, try arguing in good faith and honestly instead of strawmanning.

      So I’ll assume you’re also not arguing in good faith either

      Projection.

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          One of us wrote an entire comment that contained nothing but a lie and personal attack, and it wasn’t me.

          Edit: Facts make y’all real mad, lol.

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              Calling out strawmanning is literally not a personal attack, it’s an attack on the dishonesty of the argument.

              Comparing someone who is strawmanning to an actual person (read: not a generic pejorative like calling someone a “Karen”, for example) who literally became infamous for blatantly and shamelessly strawmanning during a public interview, is also not a personal attack, especially when the basis of the comparison is something they literally just did, not something I’ve accused them of without evidence or something.

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                Comparing someone who is strawmanning to an actual person (read: not a generic pejorative like calling someone a “Karen”, for example) who literally became infamous for blatantly and shamelessly strawmanning during a public interview

                Who are you referring to? Because it definitely read like you were using a “generic perjorative term like calling someone a ‘Karen’”. Judging by the responses, I think this is how most people took it as well.

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                  17 hours ago

                  it definitely read like you were using a “generic perjorative term like calling someone a ‘Karen’”

                  Even though there is no such term/trope/meme associated with the name “Cathy” at all? Pretty frustrating to see that people are so eager to just assume the worst possible motivation instead of just asking, if they didn’t know what I was referencing. Or forbid, actually try to figure it out on their own.

                  Ironically, I would have been perfectly justified in straight-up calling them a jerk for strawmanning and obviously twisting my words, as it is in fact a shitty thing to do, especially so blatantly.

                  But since you actually asked me, even though I contend that it’s quite easy, especially now with the additional context, to figure it out independently with a Google search, fine, I’ll tell you: Cathy Newman.

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                    17 hours ago

                    Even though there is no such term/trope/meme associated with the name “Cathy” at all?

                    Though Karen is the most popular example, people often use random names of white women in the same way. Examples include “Staci”, “Brenda”, etc.