• Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    30 days ago

    If that was the case, address it. Somehow Biden et.al., thought ignoring it was fine and the people would understand.

    That turned out to be not the case.

    • Smart=knowing what caused it.
    • Dumb=not knowing how to react.
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      He did address it. Inflation has returned to pre pandemic levels. If you bothered to look into it instead of repeating bullshit “facts”, you’d know that.

      The problem? Americans don’t “feel” like it is better. “But prices didn’t go down!” No shit that’s not how inflation works.

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        So he didn’t make people feel inflation was behind them because prices aren’t down and your answer is “no shit? That’s not how inflation works?”

        Because stop me if I’m wrong, but when prices go up and salaries don’t, then that’s having a lasting impact. And if you haven’t done anything about that lasting impact, you haven’t done enough, or convinced enough.

        Anybody saying no shit too bad you’re too stupid to understand this deserves what they get.

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          I know I"ll get downvoted for saying this, but you’re right.

          Stopping inflation without getting the prices to lower or the wages to raise is like…

          Say you get stabbed by a psycho-killer, I shoot the killer in the fucking head and haul away his corpse.

          Then I say “I have solved your stabbing issue” and call it a day.

          This doesn’t change anything about the fact that at no point did I take you to the hospital to address the fact that you are bleeding out, and now you’re crawling around on the floor praying you can get to a phone to call 911 in time for the Ambulance to save your life.

          Sure the killer’s gone, but I’ve done absolutely nothing about the fact that you’ve been stabbed and if you die I would then in fact be guilty of negligent homicide.

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          <.< You’re literally bitching that the thing that happened didn’t happen. I don’t have the answer you’re looking for, because it’s predicated on the thing that happened having not happened.

          The lifeguard can’t save your son from drowning, he already did. I don’t know how else to say this.

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          Wait, you’re mad you didn’t get a good raise for a few years, and that’s somehow Biden’s fault?

          Dude, greedy business owners keeping as much profit for themselves happens under every president.

          I think you are confused as to what POTUS does. POTUS doesn’t set or approve your payroll.

          Conservatives be all “market” this and “market” that. The markets biggest influences are on costs of goods and costs of labor, and when the market does what the markets gonna do, that’s the Democrats fault? Motherfucker, do you understand the society we live in?

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            I’m retired, I got a huge raise from Biden. Stop personalizing this, like I’m making an emotional plea. You got it wrong. Having the “facts” all lined up doesn’t win you the election, never will.

            Fight for your faults and you get to keep them.

            The job when running for president is to give people a vision of your leadership that excites them. If instead you spend your time and money against your opponent without making a case for yourself, you get lost elections.

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              Because stop me if I’m wrong, but when prices go up and salaries don’t, then that’s having a lasting impact. And if you haven’t done anything about that lasting impact, you haven’t done enough, or convinced enough.

              Presidents don’t have a magic lever to adjust for price of goods or price of labor.

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                They can implement price controls via executive order. They can also remove tariffs.

                Remove the 25% tariff on Chinese goods, and then set prices of the biggest offenders to something punishing and watch the rest stop jacking up prices.

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                Price controls, rent controls, tariffs, company breakup, nationalization. Neoliberalism isn’t and hasn’t been the only state a capitalist economy can exist in.

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          Apparently none of the facts here can stop you from just oozing your feelings. So We don’t really see the point in trying.

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            Didn’t stop the voters’ feelings either.

            Shockingly, being told you are doing better when you’re still paying more than you can afford for food and shelter doesn’t suddenly make it true and makes you mistrust the person telling you that.

            Is the economy doing better on the macro scale? Yes, but when prices have only continued to increase from their COVID levels, the working class doesn’t see the improvement. We just keep seeing corps making record profits year after year while our savings (those of us who have any) disappears before our eyes.

            Disregarding the feelings of the working class like you are doing is one of many reasons Harris lost. Feelings aren’t easily swayed by facts.

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              Disregarding the feelings of the working class

              That’s propaganda at work. don’t worry, I’m certain this will all get better in six months when the prices double.

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                It might radicalize more people against the right, so we might get a net positive out of it.

                But, yes we are in for some very bad times. It’s a shame Harris just assumed progressives would vote for her while she happily marched rightward to try and pull Republican votes she was never going to get. She could have won if she hadn’t taken progressives for granted.

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                  Well now they’ve seen twice that it doesn’t work, Wonder if those sort this out if we ever get another shot?

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            I’m just hoping the same stupid smart people who don’t recognize mass communication don’t get it wrong again next election.

            Conversing with y’all, I’m not feeling hopeful.

            BTW, didn’t want Trump, voted for Kamala, but I still think we deserved to lose. Our campaign sucked.

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      Ok, so: from a perspective of someone passing by and reading your comments here, you seem, at least, in the context of this particular thread, to not know how you should be reacting to some fairly obvious facts that are being clearly presented to you 🤔

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        29 days ago

        Read more.

        Or don’t. If that’s what you got so far I’m not sure you’ll do any better.

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        It’s like starting all over from the beginning talking to you.

        Those “facts” are only good for getting ELECTED if they are effectively communicated to the everyday person. Most people DON’T read the Brookings Institution, look up Federal Reserve or Treasury pages, or even read the New York Times. You have to explain those things in layman’s terms and tell them what the benefits are to them in plain language.

        You yelling at them (or me) for not being smart is not going to end up with you winning the election. You’ll have an excuse. But you’ll still lose.

        Either you can find a way to appeal to the common man, or you can continue to have an excuse to lose. And you will continue to lose if you don’t change your ways.

        By the way, I’ll say it again because you don’t seem to have read very far in this thread; I voted for Kamala, I didn’t want Trump to win, but I think we deserved to lose because we ran an awful campaign.