• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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    18 hours ago

    He, she, or they works well enough for most circumstances. Do we really need to broaden it beyond that?

    I would say probably not. I expect (and hope, I suppose) that things will sort themselves out more or less that way. We live in a time of great reconsideration of gender norms, and it’s not absurd to see experimentation in such a period. I use neopronouns (nounself style excluded) as a courtesy, because I understand it brings comfort to many who use them and it’s not much trouble simply to do so, but they/them is what I hope we all eventually settle on as standard for NB gender identities.

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        15 hours ago

        They/them is not used exclusively to refer to neuter things, so enbies not being gender neutral is irrelevant here. ‘They’ is a useful and pre-existing catch-all.

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          15 hours ago

          they/them is what I hope we all eventually settle on as standard for NB gender identities.

          This part is the one I’m referring to. I’m not opposed to they/them — it’s good, but I don’t think it’s fair to reduce enbies to just “they/them”.

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            10 hours ago

            … why?

            Is that any more absurd than “reducing males to he/him” or “reducing females to she/her”?

            It’s language, not a campaign medal. You don’t need a separate example for every instance.

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              3 hours ago

              The whole point of pronouns, I would argue, is to not need a separate set for every instance.

              Otherwise you may as well just use Dan/Dan/Dan’s/Danself conjugated for each name.

              Pronouns:

              • Are (generally) shorter than names, because there’s less need for them to be unique and they’re used more frequently.

              • Can be used even when you don’t know specifics about a person or object, or they don’t want to give out their name.

              • Everyone knows how to conjugate them, so once you know someone is a ‘they’, you can readily extrapolate to them, their, theirs.

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              35 minutes ago

              Well exactly because they/them is a catch-all and there aren’t just he/hims and she/hers

              let enbies express themselves too!

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        16 hours ago

        Non-binary is a broad spectrum of identity. What you’re suggesting only works for identities like genderfluid or demi-gender people.

        I’m agender, which exists outside of the male-female binary (in which you are either one or the other). Agender and it’s derivatives, like gendervoid, are completely gender neutral. I only use they/them because it’s really difficult for the average person to not use a pronoun when referring to me, I very much prefer people using my name in place of one.