• shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
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    Nah, most people are going to live their lives and see absolutely no effect from anything done. No single administration has the ability to totally fuck up the country in the amount of time they have. That’s why you get the big swings back and forth between the two parties. Also, the news is very good at sensationalizing absolutely everything and making you think that, oh my god, it’s the end of the fucking world. What are we going to do? Run around like chickens screaming with our heads cut off and shit.

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      We know that Ukraine will be betrayed by the Trump government. A Russian victory will embolden Russia to further threaten Europe. This will also embolden China and other authoritarian states.

      We also know a Trump government will stop climate action. Unfortunately, this will also signal to many other governments that they can do the same.

      We also know that immense cruelties will be perpetrated such as the family separation policy of the 1st Trump presidency

      But yes, if you are white, straight and middle class or rich, you’ll be able to think all is OK until such time as the authoritarian ascendancy led by China and Russia affects your own life, which might be a decade or more away.

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        How many people do you think would be affected by his deportation policies? I’ve heard a number of around 10 million, and that’s 3% of the population, which, while absolutely terrible, means that the other 97% isn’t going to really care.

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          Those 3% (going by your math):

          Pick crops

          Contribute $90 billion or more in tax for the county via sales tax.

          Without those people, we have no food, and immediate inflation begins. You know, the thing everyone was bitching about that was literally caused by Trumps inaction on COVID.

          This affects EVERYONE in the US.

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              I did just get a roof put on my house. Small, local business. All the office people were white, the work crew was 100% Hispanic with one bilingual guy who front manned communication. Idk how many were work visa, but given the number of serious injuries I’ve seen from work visas falling off roofs while doing construction and such while at work, it’s not just one company.

              And before you go down the path of “they’re taking ‘our’ jobs” remember that there is a shortage of skilled labor and trades right now.

              Also, if a company can pay at or near minimum wage for rappelling up the side of house, would you accept that wage given the liability/injury threat?

              Housing prices go up in reaction to losing cheap labor, I guarantee it.

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                For sure.

                I’m a licensed electrician. I’m curious what my job prospects are going to look like in the coming months.

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                  Homeowners still need you but that’s way more limited and they can only pay so much.

                  I just found a plumber, finally, that does $125 to show up and $125/hr plus parts instead of bids and he’s our plumber now. Gets recommended to everyone.

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          “Stimpy, sometimes your wealth of ignorance astounds me.” – Ren Höek

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          I know the last time he was in office his immigration policies made it impossible for some people families to come over. I worked with a couple people struggling with that.

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          Food prices will go up, not down. I think everyone cares about food prices right now.

          I’m not just talking about outdoor crop picking work. A friend was laid off from a food production company this week and Trumps not even sworn in yet. You can’t make this stuff up it’s so ridiculous. So, anticipate job losses for non immigrants as well.

          2/3 of the factory line is Hispanic, and the majority of that is rotating work visa people. In this way, you can pay much lower wages.

          Part of it was tariff threat, no one would place orders, everyone’s on hold on the production/supply/buyer chain, waiting for January, so the income of the business dropped to zero this week and is projected to stay there through January. Again, this is food production, not bread or flour, or anything basic like that, but it’s still food.

          So, with no income and the threat of loss of cheap production labor, all the American citizens were laid off this week. Whether or not the business will eventually declare bankruptcy is undecided, but that talk is definitely on the table.

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      No single administration has the ability to totally fuck up the country in the amount of time they have.

      Women in need of reproductive health services in red states would like a word.

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      No single administration has the ability to totally fuck up the country in the amount of time they have.

      Trump: “Hold my Diet Coke”.

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      [Deleted]

      I’ve made a huge mistake breaking my personal rule to avoid all political content and I’ve regretted that immediately

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        Trump was already elected before and quickly became irrelevant after his 4 years.

        And who is going to be the next US President?

        And who is nominating a Russian asset to be DNI?

        And who is nominating a child sex trafficker to be AG?

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          And who is likely to nominate an antivax, anti-science lunatic with brain worms to head the dept of Health and Human Services?

          And who is planning to eliminate the department of education and NOAA?

          Previous administrations have done damage through incompetence and/or malice, but the plan this time is on another level. They’re going in with the goal of breaking everything.

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        Dobbs and Chevron would disagree with your claim of “irrelevant”. You might not be aware, but that’s not the same thing…