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It’s not just you — no one is posting on social media anymore::Social media is on the decline. Instagram is all ads. No one’s posting on BeReal. TikTok is for influencers. The new place for sharing: group chats.

  • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.mlEnglish
    309·
    1 year ago

    The fediverse is exploring most variations right now

    Where are:

    • private spaces
    • messaging
    • chat rooms
    • my-space style personalised pages
    • Fusions of any of the variations you’re thinking of?
      • Microblogging + Reddit
      • Blogging + reddit
      • Youtube + others
      • Any and all
    • Social RSS feeds like Google Reader
    • Wikis
    • Market places
    • Subscription based content platforms for any format (eg blogs like substack or videos like nebula)
    • Heavily privacy and safety focused platforms (with, eg, abilities to control who can ever respond or see your content)
    • Video shorts (which I personally hate, but there’s probably something of value there)
    • Computationally rich posts/pages … that is, content that is not merely static text of an embedded video but contains interactive components with highly customisable graphics.

    Without wanting to be aggressive or critical of you here … there’s a good chance you, like many of us, are stuck thinking the internet can only be so many things because that’s all we’ve been given for a while (like a long time … like Twitter and Youtube have been around for longer than half the age of the internet, like we’ve arguable had real stagnation that might look like the age of Dinosaurs from the future looking back).

    • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
      193·
      1 year ago

      Fusions of any of the variations you’re thinking of?

      Have a look at https://fedidb.org/software, chances are something has popped up there.

      my-space style personalised pages

      Now that’s a blast from the past if I ever heard one. Do people really don’t understand why MySpace died? The notion of “personalized pages” went out of style several technological and social generations ago. They’re not coming back, and not because it can’t be done, because it’s an antiquated idea in almost every way.

      there’s a good chance you, like many of us, are stuck thinking the internet can only be so many things because that’s all we’ve been given for a while

      Given the above it’s ironic that you perceive me as stuck in my ways. 🙂

      Everything you listed can be done nowadays and there’s software for it out there, way too much to list here. Thinking in terms of centralized and/or proprietary platforms is the old way. The new way involves offering services based on open source software, using portable infrastructure solutions, and making a privacy pledge to the users.

      Everything you listed can be done either by setting it up yourself or by finding a service that offers it. There’s a billion options.

      • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.mlEnglish
        23·
        1 year ago

        I’m sorry, but I think you’re being too aggressive here and dismissive about how much is not easily doable on the fediverse. We’re not living in some open source utopia where there’s an abundance of awesome software waiting to be used.

        A few quick thoughts.

        • I’m familiar with fedidb. Anything that matches my list is likely to be small and niche. If I’ve missed anything, let me know … it was the point of my response to highlight that all of these variations you claim exist are not so easily identifiable if they exist.
        • Plenty of people (and businesses and professionals!) still have their own web pages of some sort or another. Things don’t have to look like MySpace for that to be a thing. It’s a generic service not at all bound to myspace’s particulars and easily coupled with other platform features (see eg firefish)
        • I wasn’t thinking in terms of centralised platforms, my critique is in many ways the Fedi is.
        • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
          6·
          1 year ago

          But why would you go to a centralized platform for your website?

          You can do that too btw, with services like Wix or Squarespace, or specialized services for various niches, like Flickr or 500px if you’re a photographer etc.

          You can also put together a website in an editor and host it on a generic service where you control your domain and everything.

          How would you define and market a service like MySpace nowadays?

          • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.mlEnglish
            11·
            1 year ago

            How would you define and market a service like MySpace nowadays?

            A quick and easy landing page for something with the ability to engage and interact socially over all of the platforms of the fediverse built right in.

            It doesn’t have to be centralised at all … and I’m talking about what features are offered by platforms/software that are compatible with the fediverse such that connecting across it can be baked in. All of the specialised services are the sorts of things I’m talking about in terms of what’s not on or easily possible (right now) on the fediverse, where the advantage of bringing such things to the fediverse is the possibility of easily reaching a wide audience while still owning your content and platform.

    • Twashe@lemmy.mlEnglish
      41·
      1 year ago

      I am also going to say that nostr has all these things in some alpha form or another. However, it is very much a mess right now and it is harder IMHO to connect with others or curate my feed with stuff I like.

      The advantage of small groups and fedi is starting with a small network and growing it slowly, this is more rewarding than starting with the whole world and trying to pull back.

      Nostr might have all the features but its a mess right now