• qooqie@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      Okay, what about calling it current society? I don’t see current society being able to change this for a long long time

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        9 days ago

        The main function of cops is to protect the bourgeois, white-supremacist, patriarchal, colonialist state. I would like to get rid of the latter, so the former needs to go.

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          9 days ago

          So if and when we make that happen, and we have a society free of that stuff, do we think everything will always be perfect and free of conflict and no one will break the (hopefully much improved) laws? That seems unlikely, so we’ll need some kind of way of keeping the order, right? Will it not be the responsibility of a specific job? Will there be people with that job but we won’t call them any of the names we currently have for that general job category?

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            9 days ago

            You won’t be able to recognise the so-called “justice system” or “order” in that hypothetical society, so no: that job won’t exist anymore.

            Yes, harm can still be done and this future society should and will find ways to prevent and/or heal that harm. Neither of these things are the police’s job, so why should we call that hypothetical job like the old system of violence?

            Even if you think that those things are done by the police: do you still call a shoe designer/manufacturer a cobbler?

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          8 days ago

          The idea that people can live without some form of policing is ricidulous once you’ve seen some of the darker parts of humanity. Visit Haiti, Somalia, slums just about anywhere on the planet.

          You sound like some 22 year old with a couple years of higher education, and now you think you have all the answers.

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            8 days ago

            You sound like a child who still believes what they told you in Paw Patrol.

            So… do you know any of the history of Somalia and Haiti? How they got into that situation?

          • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            8 days ago

            The idea that people can live

            People don’t live. They always die. Living and dying are the same process.