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Panel one: flag of zionist entity, soyjak who represents trans people, the pride flag, Palestine maoists?, Sockdems, Ieland says: Fuck off! I don’t believe in this zionist imperialist nonsense.
Panel two: kurdish flag, same soy from earlier: omg! Wholesome “indigenous” self determination!
As an aside, what is our actual stance on Israel?
To be clear, I don’t think Israel should be occupying the Gaza Strip, West Bank, etc.
Needs to be liquidated immediately. One of the greatest international failures of the USSR. Amerika reflected.
tirade
I believe we are mainly in unity about this here. No two-state solution will ever work. It has to be one state with social and economic equity between native Palestinians and other inhabitants with Palestinian rule. This is all secondary and even merely hypothetical in the face of the ongoing “settlement” which is displacing, starving, dehydrating, bleeding fucking dry the lives of millions of people. This is all if the Israeli settlers and their settler state grant you the mercy of suffering and do not instead murder you on sight. Women, children, reporters, the elderly, the disabled, other (usually brown-skinned) Jews – the IDF does not discriminate. They will shoot you dead.
Ergo… critical support for Hamas, critical support for Hezbollah, for Iran, for Syria, for the Ba’athists, Pan-Arabists and anyone in their fight against the ongoing imperial project, ongoing open air prison, ongoing genocide that is occurring before the entire world’s eyes and is not being stopped.
To quote an article so otherwise shitty I won’t even link to it, here’s the DPRK’s official stance.
I consider the PRC’s current position on the issue more than a little problematic (disastrous) but understand where they are coming from in not completely severing ties and rallying the international community against the settler project. Still, I consider it a glaring failure of the Chinese socialist project that they find themselves in a position wherein they can’t even denounce genocide occuring before the world’s eyes. This is changing, though I wish it would change more quickly. Genocide is kind of time-sensitive.
The parallels between Israel and Amerika’s settler-colonization projects are more apparent than the differences between them. Internationalists everywhere need to recognize that if they consider themselves serious about decolonization. Self-determination is non-negotiable.
Obviously it’d be preferable if the PFLP or radical factions of Fatah came to govern New Palestine rather than political Islamist groups funded by Iran. It doesn’t really matter, though. Genocide is occuring. The political force that matters most is the one capable of ending it.
our stance on what?
The stance of any self-respecting leftists is to promote the complete return of land to Palestine.
Blue Rhodesia
No, Rhodesia were at least honest about being Nazis. Israel are much more like Arpathied South Africa
It’s a settler colony and racist ethnostate that slaughters innocent people daily. It should be dismantled and replaced with a single Palestinian state that represents its people and gives Palestinians back the rights that were taken from them, including and especially the right of return to the Palestinian refugees/diaspora.
I’m open to a two-state solution, but it feels a little redundant to have two Palestines. Might as well just have the one.
Israel is an imperialist nation allied with and supported by the United States. In exchange for intelligence, conducting operations to weaken their rivals, destabilize the Middle East, and lobbying US politicians, the United States uses their influence to protect Israel from international condemnation.
It is imperialist in that it controls not only all land through military power, but also that utilities providers in the region in both Israel and Palestine are controlled by Israeli corporations. The Palestinian government not only has zero bargaining power, and is fractured with the east side acting as lap dogs and the west side having multiple representatives. Through this major imbalance of power, there is hyper exploitation of the Palestinian people, as the Palestinian state is severely weakened.
The only thing keeping the Israeli state in check, is optics, and the will of its people. This is evident by the disparity between the speed of its expansion and its domination over the area. It can easily begin and finish a campaign to exterminate Palestinians but they don’t because the state will then lose support of its people and the international community.
To solve this, class contradictions must be intensified between Israelis and the Israeli state, while being resolved between the Israeli people and the Palestinian people to create a coalition of the proletariat.
Sanctions on Palestine must be lifted. Israel must lose the support of the United States.
Finally a revolution must be held to smash the Israeli state, replaced with a dictatorship of the proletariat and nationalize all industries.
So, I dunno about you guys but my stance is “Israel bad”.