Not sure what you’re talking about. Since the summer it’s just been post about Dems and how Republicans are weirdos. Honestly, the socialist presence on Lemmy is lacking.
Personally i don’t mind the communism as much (I share many of its beliefs and goals) as the tankieism.
No, China and Russia are not role models but hostile actors. No, their imperialist bullshit and human rights violations or straight up war crimes aren’t justified because the west did a thing that one time and it was also evil. No, the russian kleptocracy and chinese state capitalism are not socialism or communism.
Personally i don’t mind the communism as much (I share many of its beliefs and goals) as the tankieism.
Can you meaningfully explain the difference in your eyes?
No, China and Russia are not role models but hostile actors
Not a single Communist thinks Russia is a role model. The PRC being a role model is far more accurate than the implication that Communists like the Russian Federation, though.
No, their imperialist bullshit and human rights violations or straight up war crimes aren’t justified because the west did a thing that one time and it was also evil
The West is by far the largest purveyors of War Crimes the world over, and by far the most Imperialist. I suggest you read Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism. It should help you understand what Communists refer tk when they mention Imperialism, specifically a form of international monopoly Capitalism and exploitation.
No, the russian kleptocracy and chinese state capitalism are not socialism or communism.
Again, nobody thinks the Russian Federation is Socialist or Communist, just anti-West.
As for China, they are Socialist. They have a Socialist Market Economy, the aim of which is to guide market developments into large syndicates that are then absorbed into the public sector, which makes up the majority of the PRC’s economy. The PRC is socialized by degree, which is how Marx described the transition from Capitalism to Communism, repeated by Engels here, in The Principles of Communism:
Will it be possible for private property to be abolished at one stroke?
No, no more than existing forces of production can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society.
In all probability, the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity.
China’s economy works by that same function, markets coalesce into syndicates, socializing themselves and making these syndicates ripe for public ownership. This is the Dialectical path of Historical Materialism, the conditions for Socialism are born from Capitalism. “State Capitalism” is incorrect.
This. Hexbear and .ml are shit for this
Then again, I got my comments erased just pointing out Israel’s genocide in a Technology thread directly related to the OP which was a news article about Facebook starting to block such things on their platforms, so fuck .world too.
Democrats are quite convinced they are the most radical and pragmatic political force on earth, being reluctant followers of Placeholder Hitler pitted against More Racist Hitler in the general election (the only election in 𝕌𝕊𝕠𝕟𝕚𝕒 and therefore the only legitimate election on the American continents, Canadia is a 𝕌𝕊𝕠𝕟𝕚𝕒𝕟 state no further questions thank you, thank you). It’s a shame they are all legally required to vote for a Hitler, but the law says for everyone who doesn’t vote for a Hitler they will throw an undocumented child into a fetid ravine where a half-dead river struggles to flow leaving them for the coyotes.
It’s not just angry candor against the US. People have pointed out fascist characteristics of the US government, historically, since at least 1952. Not a new theory at all.
She is literally a rebrand of Biden, would you call what is happening in Palestine and Lebanon ethnic cleansing? I don’t feel like debating nonexistent changes to the same political platform of lebensraum
I would call what’s happening in Palestine beyond Biden’s meaningful control.
He can cease arms shipments to Israel, but not without losing the election by angering the Jewish voters, and then Trump will nuke Gaza and build one of his high-rises on the rubble. That would solve nothing.
Take it up with Netanyahu and his Israeli supporters. They’re the ones who decided to bomb the hell out of Gaza, not Biden.
BTW, Lebensraum involved taking people’s houses, not blowing them up.
That got me winded since I’m on my phone, I forgot to mention the nuke thing. What is stopping Israel from nuking Palestine is a trifecta of linked issues
expending its deterrence versus Iran
counterattack which could flatten Israel is possible without nukes, and has been saved up already (this is not a joke)
counterattacks against US oil interests in the region
It’s not about the unlimited might of the US being held back by goodwill. There are very real limitations, the Pentagon planned on doing what it’s being forced to do with Iran to China. Plans are scaling down all the time.
By the way the 170,000 pounds figure was from what they dropped on a single city block.
Dude your worldview is completely based on news headlines and dem memes I don’t have time for this. Consider this a brief overview of stuff to consider and maybe redirect your energy to something better than saving the reputation of the dems, which they certainly will not help you with.
The talking point that Trump is more Hitlerian due to being a threat to the institutions of bourgeois democracy is more credible than the “harm reduction to domestic minorities and global south countries”, but fortunately most people aren’t goofy enough to think that it matters if yet another president oversteps legal boundaries. Fascists rising only had to get rid of bourgeois democracy because power was not secure. Zero institutions in US democracy hinder fascists. The democrats refuse to undo conservative power grabs out of false pragmatism as they already got what they wanted, power within the system over their lessers. Like you view me, like a rube who needs a scolding.
Biden’s branding of Reluctant Hitler has been slapped on the most lenience Israel has ever been given. Harris has also been clear that nobody will stop Israel from dropping 170,000 pounds (multiple Hiroshimas) of US bombs on Palestine and Lebanon.
Biden has been even more extreme on border issues than Trump 1, and Trump 2 will be even more extreme than Biden.
They are both worse than Hitler in their own way because they run a well-oiled empire not a cannibalistic aberration. Our cannibalism of Europe is financial, not via real land grabs.
Please consider how much more there is to our lives than the general election. This is an opportunity to talk to people about what is being omitted from both party’s platforms.
Anyways Jill Stein for the general or fuck you find me a candidate that isn’t Hitler.
Personally I think the degrowth politics of US greens is too close to NGO nonsense but at least it is actually against the genocide. Wouldn’t be surprised if they turn around and demand poor countries denuclearize. Would not be surprised if she began talking about the evils of ROSATOM sending nuclear tech to Africa.
Then again, the US nuclear industry is famously wasteful and dangerous, so it could simply be a reaction to that, along with it maintaining our arsenal.
Not sure what you’re talking about. Since the summer it’s just been post about Dems and how Republicans are weirdos. Honestly, the socialist presence on Lemmy is lacking.
You obviously haven’t been on all the meme sublemmies that are nothing but capitalism bad.
Yeah, I see lots of bitching about there being (gasp) communists on a platform that was built by communists.
Personally i don’t mind the communism as much (I share many of its beliefs and goals) as the tankieism.
No, China and Russia are not role models but hostile actors. No, their imperialist bullshit and human rights violations or straight up war crimes aren’t justified because the west did a thing that one time and it was also evil. No, the russian kleptocracy and chinese state capitalism are not socialism or communism.
Can you meaningfully explain the difference in your eyes?
Not a single Communist thinks Russia is a role model. The PRC being a role model is far more accurate than the implication that Communists like the Russian Federation, though.
The West is by far the largest purveyors of War Crimes the world over, and by far the most Imperialist. I suggest you read Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism. It should help you understand what Communists refer tk when they mention Imperialism, specifically a form of international monopoly Capitalism and exploitation.
Again, nobody thinks the Russian Federation is Socialist or Communist, just anti-West.
As for China, they are Socialist. They have a Socialist Market Economy, the aim of which is to guide market developments into large syndicates that are then absorbed into the public sector, which makes up the majority of the PRC’s economy. The PRC is socialized by degree, which is how Marx described the transition from Capitalism to Communism, repeated by Engels here, in The Principles of Communism:
China’s economy works by that same function, markets coalesce into syndicates, socializing themselves and making these syndicates ripe for public ownership. This is the Dialectical path of Historical Materialism, the conditions for Socialism are born from Capitalism. “State Capitalism” is incorrect.
This. Hexbear and .ml are shit for this Then again, I got my comments erased just pointing out Israel’s genocide in a Technology thread directly related to the OP which was a news article about Facebook starting to block such things on their platforms, so fuck .world too.
Your instance blocks the tankie ones
Democrats are quite convinced they are the most radical and pragmatic political force on earth, being reluctant followers of Placeholder Hitler pitted against More Racist Hitler in the general election (the only election in 𝕌𝕊𝕠𝕟𝕚𝕒 and therefore the only legitimate election on the American continents, Canadia is a 𝕌𝕊𝕠𝕟𝕚𝕒𝕟 state no further questions thank you, thank you). It’s a shame they are all legally required to vote for a Hitler, but the law says for everyone who doesn’t vote for a Hitler they will throw an undocumented child into a fetid ravine where a half-dead river struggles to flow leaving them for the coyotes.
In which world Harris is even close to Hitler?
Jesus, some people here live in an alternative universe.
It’s not just angry candor against the US. People have pointed out fascist characteristics of the US government, historically, since at least 1952. Not a new theory at all.
I don’t remember Harris openly advocating ethnic cleansing. If you’re going to say she’s equivalent to Hitler, I expect you to bring receipts.
She is literally a rebrand of Biden, would you call what is happening in Palestine and Lebanon ethnic cleansing? I don’t feel like debating nonexistent changes to the same political platform of lebensraum
I would call what’s happening in Palestine beyond Biden’s meaningful control.
He can cease arms shipments to Israel, but not without losing the election by angering the Jewish voters, and then Trump will nuke Gaza and build one of his high-rises on the rubble. That would solve nothing.
Take it up with Netanyahu and his Israeli supporters. They’re the ones who decided to bomb the hell out of Gaza, not Biden.
BTW, Lebensraum involved taking people’s houses, not blowing them up.
That got me winded since I’m on my phone, I forgot to mention the nuke thing. What is stopping Israel from nuking Palestine is a trifecta of linked issues
expending its deterrence versus Iran
counterattack which could flatten Israel is possible without nukes, and has been saved up already (this is not a joke)
counterattacks against US oil interests in the region
It’s not about the unlimited might of the US being held back by goodwill. There are very real limitations, the Pentagon planned on doing what it’s being forced to do with Iran to China. Plans are scaling down all the time.
By the way the 170,000 pounds figure was from what they dropped on a single city block.
Dude your worldview is completely based on news headlines and dem memes I don’t have time for this. Consider this a brief overview of stuff to consider and maybe redirect your energy to something better than saving the reputation of the dems, which they certainly will not help you with.
The talking point that Trump is more Hitlerian due to being a threat to the institutions of bourgeois democracy is more credible than the “harm reduction to domestic minorities and global south countries”, but fortunately most people aren’t goofy enough to think that it matters if yet another president oversteps legal boundaries. Fascists rising only had to get rid of bourgeois democracy because power was not secure. Zero institutions in US democracy hinder fascists. The democrats refuse to undo conservative power grabs out of false pragmatism as they already got what they wanted, power within the system over their lessers. Like you view me, like a rube who needs a scolding.
Biden’s branding of Reluctant Hitler has been slapped on the most lenience Israel has ever been given. Harris has also been clear that nobody will stop Israel from dropping 170,000 pounds (multiple Hiroshimas) of US bombs on Palestine and Lebanon.
Biden has been even more extreme on border issues than Trump 1, and Trump 2 will be even more extreme than Biden.
They are both worse than Hitler in their own way because they run a well-oiled empire not a cannibalistic aberration. Our cannibalism of Europe is financial, not via real land grabs.
Please consider how much more there is to our lives than the general election. This is an opportunity to talk to people about what is being omitted from both party’s platforms.
Anyways Jill Stein for the general or fuck you find me a candidate that isn’t Hitler.
Ah Jill Stein, the russian asset. You’re a trumper?
LOL, funny, well she’s not perfect to me.
Personally I think the degrowth politics of US greens is too close to NGO nonsense but at least it is actually against the genocide. Wouldn’t be surprised if they turn around and demand poor countries denuclearize. Would not be surprised if she began talking about the evils of ROSATOM sending nuclear tech to Africa.
Then again, the US nuclear industry is famously wasteful and dangerous, so it could simply be a reaction to that, along with it maintaining our arsenal.
I’m sure that Gish gallop would make Vance proud, but you’ll have to do better than that if you want to fool me.
You’ll also need another account, because that one is blocked. Good day.
Hah, coward. You try to start a fight with me half asleep and you still lose.