Michel Kichka is a cartoonist borne in Belgium with Jewish roots, who became intrigued with Israel, and decided to do a permanent move, marrying and raising a family there with his French wife.

* “Aliyah” is a somewhat complicated word as I grasp it, but from what I understand at the basic level, refers to going back to one’s roots / homeland.

-----> https://imgur.com/a/kjMohrs <-----

The way the sequence above concluded really shocked me, and even brought a tear to my eye, honestly. Me, I’m not remotely used to dealing with people like that, and yet I guess that’s how it works in certain parts of the world? (gadzooks, mistress goose)

In terms of the comic itself, I found this sequence rather current & relevant to the USA, and a pretty excellent, interesting survey of the artist’s life and Israeli culture. At the same time, it established little to no emotional connection with the characters, which is usually how we do these things, but… oh well?

https://www.bedetheque.com/auteur-23699-BD-Kichka-Michel.html

    • Nacktmull@lemm.eeMEnglish
      21·
      7 days ago

      I am honestly confused, are there any Palestinian characters in the posted pages? The two guys having an argument are obviously both Jewish …

      Edit: Did you read all three pages?

    • JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.eeOPMEnglish
      43·
      8 days ago

      Blaze, you know I love you, but if everything that has to do with Israel is automatically controversial, then what is the point of snipping little aspects of our lives?

      This is the point where I say: “go fluff yourselves, right?”

      • mathemachristian[he]@lemm.eeEnglish
        21·
        4 days ago

        Israel is built on genocide, it’s perpretaing genocide, it’s only propped up by the US because it’s profitable for it to do so. Yeah everything about it is controversial, not least of all it’s appropiation of judaism.

        • JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.eeOPMEnglish
          21·
          2 days ago

          A modern Israel never would have been necessary if Jewish people hadn’t been unfairly persecuted for centuries and then genocided in WWII, a good bit of that due to bullshit literature like “PEZ,” that sought to find external scapegoats for internal, national difficulties.

          Regardless of all these comments, there’s simply no good reason to start slinging shit in a post examining interpersonal conflicts within Israel. You are breaking the simple rules of this sublemmy (follow “netiquette”), and I don’t appreciate it.

          • mathemachristian[he]@lemm.eeEnglish
            11·
            10 hours ago

            Modern israel was built on the idea of colonialism, not giving jewish people a homeland. That’s why Herzl wrote Rhodes and visited some of the most horrendous antisemites of his time like the russian czar. To him the jewish people were nothing more than bodies to settle the colony he wished to build (similar to rhodesia). Why else would the y have contemplated argentina at some point for instance? Why the lost generation of the mizrahi jews? The forced sterilization of ethiopian jews?

            Zionism is racist and at it’s core anti-semitic since it wields the suffering of the jewish people as a shield to legitimize it’s settler colonialism.

            • JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.eeOPMEnglish
              2·
              9 hours ago

              You make some nice points to me. Not unlike what happened in the USA, altho I’m not perfectly from the States.

              BUT you just skipped over the enormous points I brought up at the start. Now why is that…?

              • mathemachristian[he]@lemm.eeEnglish
                1·
                2 hours ago

                The point about how israel wouldn’t be necessary if jews weren’t persecuted? I think I made it clear that the persecution was used as a cudgel to move bodies to the colony, not that the colony was established as a safe haven for jews.

                Because if it truly was about helping jews the racism against non-white jews wouldn’t exist.

                • JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.eeOPMEnglish
                  1·
                  2 hours ago

                  I think I made it clear that the persecution was used as a cudgel to move bodies to the colony

                  You see, when in retrospect, that stuff doesn’t matter when a peoples are pushed over and across their breaking point.

                  Take a little mouse, for example. Let’s say you smack it around for a long while, then finally push it in to a corner. Then you lean in for a kiss.

                  OF COURSE YOU’RE GOING TO GET BITTEN?

                  Don’t you get it? (even at just a… theoretical level)

      • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        31·
        8 days ago

        I just realized now that the whole topic is available in the imgur link. Having the full story completely changes the message (and it is indeed quite positive)

        My comment was about the 3 drawings you see from the main picture in the post, which just seem to indicate an escalation of tension between the two characters, which is why I made this comment.

        Let’s see how other people react

        • JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.eeOPMEnglish
          22·
          8 days ago

          Good point…

          Yet, in case it matters, I tortured myself over a couple days, wondering if I should make a post like this. And yet it’s just what I’m reading. At the end of the day, I don’t feel like I should be ashamed for what I’m reading. People who don’t like that can just move along…

          • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.caEnglish
            42·
            8 days ago

            I saw that image and was a little confused about the message that was being conveyed. This little conversation between you two helped clarify things and was enough impetus to follow the imgur link. Thank you both!

    • Nacktmull@lemm.eeMEnglish
      22·
      7 days ago

      Indeed, could not be more sensitive. I hope people will stay on topic and be cool.