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    I’m sorry if asking you to explain the fundamentals of something before continuing a conversation is too overwhelming for you. It’s clear you don’t know what PPP loans are because you already jumped to comparing them to student debt - that was my first clue.

    You don’t know what you’re talking about but you are very comfortable repeating buzzwords and catchphrases.

    Why should I argue with someone who clearly has no idea what they are talking about? It’s pretty clear you don’t because if you did you could have proved it a long time ago.

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      Wow, I just want to say you’re operating so clearly in good faith that I don’t know which of your good faith behaviors to praise first.

      As I already pointed out, you spewed out a bunch of low effort bullshit that would take much more effort to refute, which is again, a textbook example of a gish gallop. You then demanded to control the terms of the debate by subjecting me to some sort of test of knowledge which I obviously refused to engage in, since that’s a ridiculous thing to do. Then, you took a word from the definition of gish gallop and completely removed it of context, and accused me of saying I was “overwhelmed” by your test of knowledge, which I never said. You then interpreted my refusal to engage with your terms as an admission of ignorance. So that’s at least four points of bad faith, just right off the bat.

      You don’t get to randomly subject me to tests any more than I get to randomly subject you to tests. That’s not how conversation or debate works. If you’re afraid of engaging me on even terms and want to pull a bunch of bullshit, you do you, but it doesn’t change the reality of the situation, which are the things I pointed out.

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        If asking you to explain a simple fundamental thing for you is too overwhelming then too bad. I’m not arguing quantum physics with someone that can’t do arithmetic. You can’t talk US legislation and policy like it’s a soccer game. I’m more than convinced now than ever you don’t know what you’re talking about and Im glad I didn’t waste any more time going down a rabbit hole only to learn later you are out of your depth.

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          If asking you to explain a simple fundamental thing for you is too overwhelming then too bad. I’m not arguing quantum physics with someone that can’t do arithmetic.

          And I’m asking you to explain a much simpler, much more fundamental thing, and you can’t. I strongly recommend investing in some diapers.

          Im glad I didn’t waste any more time going down a rabbit hole only to learn later you are out of your depth.

          Lol you filtered me out because I showed I wasn’t going to put up with your bullshit, bad faith tactics. You won’t submit to my test of knowledge so I won’t submit to yours. I of course understand what the president’s role is and isn’t when it comes to legislation, just as you (presumably) know the answer to my question, but I’m not going to play your game for the exact same reasons you won’t play mine. Because one side doesn’t just get to dictate all the terms of debate.

          Still doesn’t change the facts of the matter, which are that everything I said is correct.

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            The fact that you lumped in PPP loans with student loans showed me you don’t understand a) basic econ b) policy and legislation. I figured that out pretty quick and wanted to give you a chance. You spent more time arguing why you should argue than simplify answering the question. Because of course, you don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m good thanks

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              You spent more time arguing why you should argue than simplify answering the question. Because of course, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

              Right back at you.

              Remember what I said: diapers.

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                  I didn’t ask you to give me a list of logical fallacies, I asked you to explain the difference between peepee and poopoo. Why wouldn’t you do that unless you just don’t know the answer? Care to explain?

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                    Pee is liquid and is excreted from from the urethra and poo poo is feces excreted from the anus. Done.

                    Now can you explain why PPP loans were forgiven? What is the context and legislative background behind PPP loans? How are they related/similar to student loans? Why was major student loan relief stalled legislatively? Show us you understand anything about what you’re talking about? Give one specific example.

                    Sorry. Too many many overwhelming questions to your buzzword statement? I hope i’m not gish galloping ad hom slippery slope false equivocating here. Feel free to answer just one question with specific example and source.

                    Take all the time you need.