• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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        Right. You’re not building a PS5 Pro level PC with keyboard and mouse for under $699. Maybe next year.

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          The previous comment about the PC being more versatile and upgradeable was right, though.

          My current gaming rig is the PC of Theseus. The replaced parts trickle down through other PCs in the house, giving everyone an upgrade when the beefiest box gets a new component every year or two.

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            I’ve given so many pcs away to family because I upgrade one part then scavenge the rest of parts from the ewaste bin at work

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          Here is a list of parts that will outperform the PS5 pro for 100 bucks less, that 100 bucks is enough to buy a great quality keyboard and mouse, or a PS5 controller if you prefer playing with a controller

          PCPartPicker Part List

          Type Item Price
          CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor $114.67 @ Amazon
          Motherboard ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $59.99 @ Amazon
          Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $29.99 @ Newegg
          Storage TEAMGROUP MS30 1 TB M.2-2280 SATA Solid State Drive $46.99 @ Amazon
          Video Card MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card $260.00 @ Newegg
          Case Thermaltake V100 Perforated ATX Mid Tower Case $47.99 @ Best Buy
          Power Supply EVGA 500 W1 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $47.99 @ Amazon
          Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
          Total (before mail-in rebates) $627.62
          Mail-in rebates -$20.00
          Total $607.62
          Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-12 00:17 EDT-0400
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            Will the 3060 actually outperform a PS5 Pro though? Spec wise its GPU is closer to a RX 6800, which is roughly 30% faster than a 3060 and also a little bit more expensive. And, especially in CPU limited titles, a Ryzen 7 would also be closer to the PS5 (Pro). Add a TB more storage (to be equivalent in this regard as well) and you’re having a much harder time of matching the price (with new parts at least).

            Until people actually get their hands on a PS5 pro and publish comparative benchmarks, though, this will stay speculation only. And that’s not to say, that this PC isn’t a good value gaming rig, just that it might not be enough to compete with a brand new console that probably has razor thin margins, if it’s not even sold at a loss in the beginning.

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              The list I sent actually already includes a 1TB SSD, so it is equivalent to the PS5 pro in that regard

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              The bigger question is, how many games will actually be programmed to allow for 1440p with a higher refresh rate than 60? Because right now, the answer is “not many”

              For a computer, the answer is “almost all of them”

              Power is useless if limited by shitty game settings.

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                More than 60fps doesn’t matter for a lot of people though. A lot of console gamers play on TV and only high end TVs have higher refresh rates anyways, so those people would prefer higher resolution and nicer graphics settings to more fps.

                I’m a PC gamer and even I don’t own a single high refresh rate display, for example, because I usually play slower paced story based games. While I enjoy 120+ Hz, my priorities lie with UHD and HDR, as long as I get close to 60fps. And most PS5 games already support performance modes with 60-ish fps on the base model console albeit without all the possible eye candy.

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          For only 100$ more

          https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MjNRZJ

          There’s no case on this list, you have a lot of ways to get a free case including the classic “Cardboard Special”. There’s no keyboard and mouse, you can get those at the thrift store for like 1$ (They’re always at the thrift store, even found an RGB Mech Keyboard for like 5$ once lmao)

          You could def get this under 700 with some diligence and price watching, I slapped this together in like 5 minutes.

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            Adding a high quality cooling case, keyboard, and mouse would be comparable. You get a controller with a PS5.

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              There’s no case on this list, you have a lot of ways to get a free case including the classic “Cardboard Special”.

              There’s no keyboard and mouse, you can get those at the thrift store for like 1$ (They’re always at the thrift store, even found an RGB Mech Keyboard for like 5$ once lmao)

              Also, like I said, I could def foresee getting my list as-is down to 600 with the right optimizations and sale tracking, right off the bat I can tell you I opted for a 700w PSU when a 400 is really all that would be needed according to the wattage estimate. With a PC you can also buy it piece by piece if needed.

              Then you would have 100 to spare for a good case or split between a case and keyboard/mouse if you really want a new KB/Mouse

              50 series Nvidia is due for an announcement soon with AMDs offerings prob shortly after so all those nice 30 series are going to go on some good discounts

              And this is all new ofc, you could save even more buying used or swapping to the AM4 platform

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          Well, what if you took that $596.83 (adjusted for inflation) for a PS5 in 2020 and built a PC back then instead? Now you could have 700$ to upgrade whatever you wanted inside it.

          It was probably way more than ~$600 if you wanted to buy a PS5 back then, due to supply issues.

          If you built a PC instead of buying a PS4/pro you could at least reuse the case, screen, mouse, & keyboard. Maybe even the power supply.

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            Full agree, and definitely power supply… a nice PSU lasts forever. I bought a plat 1000w PSU and gave my partner my 5yo Gold 650w and it still powers perfectly. I’ll have this PAU for a decade or more hahaha

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          Do you need a new keyboard and mouse though? Even laptop users usually already have a mouse, and keyboards tend to have good longevity - mine is over 10 years old.

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      It’s out of stock now, but I did see a 4070 for 299 a few days ago. I should have bought it, but if I did, I would not have been able to pay some bills.