• freewheel@lemmy.world
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      Digital players by and large obviously don’t really care about the power grab WoC tried; fully three quarters of their imagination is being handed to them.

      As a GM (formerly DM), content creator, and player as far back as AD&D, Hasbro and WotC are dead to me. They got paid for their work. They don’t get to get paid for mine.

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        Three quarters of their imagination is being handed to them.

        Yeah i don’t know where you are getting this from but your own bias is heavily clouding your judgement. I have been a VTT player for 4 years and was a physical player for 3 years during college before that. We use a VTT because our group collectively lives in 5 separate states now. We are all vehemently against supporting WOTC in any way and were all well aware of the bullshit WOTC pulled and started playing other systems since. In fact I would go as far to say that it takes way more effort up front to learn a VTT because you have to learn how to use it on top of the games rule system. VTT aren’t just for lazy gamers and I really don’t understand this mentality. I mainly see it from people who haven’t tried VTT or are TTRPG vets shaking their fist about how kids these days don’t play right.

        All of our group would much much rather play in person for so many reasons and we often reminisce about how much we miss it, that being said I am so thankful I was able to maintain my table after we all moved to separate states. I don’t think I would have been able to find a new group in the place I live and even if I did I live in BFE. VTT’s are about much more than having your imagination handed to you and burying your head in the sand.

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          Consider that opinions and judgment come from experience. It’s very clear that you don’t fall into the visually oriented, never cracked a book in their life that didn’t have a grade attached to it, think movie visuals and video game visuals come from trees category. I’m sorry to have touched a nerve.

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            5 months ago

            Opinions and judgements can come from literally anywhere, experience is not a prerequisite for an opinion although it should be.

            never cracked a book in their life that didn’t have a grade attached to it, think movie visuals and video game visuals come from trees category

            Right cause our DND group decided to move to a VTT instead of dissolving when we graduated, logical conclusion.

            I’m not trying to be an asshole or anything I just see the TTRPG community dog on VTT a lot and I don’t understand it. Like when wizards were talking about AI DMs we should all absolutely get together to shit on that, but VTT’s are allowing connectivity and flexibility that can allow groups that start together, stay together They aren’t perfect and in person is much better (god I miss physical rolls) but when I see people being condescending to VTT players I will call it out.

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              That’s what you got out of what I said?

              No, it’s not a crime to think visually. The operative word here is “think”, to which I’ll add “create” and “imagine” – as opposed to expecting to have it handed to you. DISCLAIMER: (since it appears I’m going to have to anyway) – no. You know what? You win. You know very well the kind of player I’m taking about, we had them even before the internet was commercialized. But if you want to take it personally, go right ahead.

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        Wotc/hasbro obviously don’t care about old heads and even relatively old newcomers like me (I started at the tail end of D&D 3.5). They want that sweet stranger things/critical role money.

        But a lot of people who have been using VTTs for a long time clearly see the tradeoffs that come with switching to the “official” VTT. I’m seeing more and more people in these circles go back to AD&D, Pathfinder, DCC etc to get away from wotc as much as possible