@yogthos Ah shit. There go my hopes of generating value without human labour.
@yogthos Wow the implications of that article are pretty grim. The part about freelancers makes me think that the low-quality labour that they paid for without employment contracts has improved in quality a little bit. But it is likely because of vulture capitalists fronting the cost of AI services right now.
yup, I suspect this is the typical pump and dump scheme we tend to see with VCs. They’re building out a bunch of companies around AI right now, and eating the costs. Then once IPOs start happening, the initial investors are going to cash out and suckers will be holding the stock for companies don’t have a workable business model.
I wonder what it will take for these models to actually “bootstrap” their intelligence and not just feed off human intelligence like it seems they do now.
Embodiment and things like it are a good one. Giving then the ability to interact with the world and basically use its interactions with the world itself to tell it if it succeded or not, leading to high quality data that can then be used to improve the next models. And having a way to use this to train the model itself, instead of the next gen, would be even better.
I think embodiment is key as well. Humans all grow up in the physical world, and our brains learn to model physical reality long before we start learning language. A lot of the stuff we take for granted when we communicated is rooted in the physical context we all share. We need to do the same thing with AIs to create meaningful understanding in a human sense.
I have a similar theory. All “AIs” used right now are really just giant matrices that you multiply vectors against. It’s the same concept that’s used in computer graphics all the time, that’s why GPUs are so good for training and running them. To me a more “real” intelligence would need to grow and develop on its own completely organically without any human input and not be just a math problem. It would have to be dynamic and fluid much like a real brain. Neurons would need to function more like individual entities and behave like real neurons rather than just items in an array that get used in simple floating point operations. If you can express any core part of an “AI” as a simple function it’s not really an AI.
Note that I’m not an expert, I just spent a some years experimenting with different types and combinations of conventional Neural Networks, reading research papers and eventually came to the conclusion that they’re a dead end due to their static nature. This realization actually made me lose interest in “AI” because these things are really just “smart” input mappers that can take well educated “guesses” of what the output might be.
The best of LLMs at this point are pretty wild in how convincingly they can talk like a human and manage nuance, as well as a certain degree of creative output. But you’re not wrong in that they’re effectively just very mathy prediction engines. They can’t plan ahead because all they’re doing is predicting the next token. They don’t really know anything in the way that a human does or a database records something, they just have pre-established “confidence” in something from their training data, which might be applied more broadly or might be highly contextual to circumstance; like being able to get a height difference correct in a straightforward Q&A but failing to get it correct within the context of a fictional story.
There is also a fundamental problem, I think, in evaluating a LLM AI’s “intelligence” in particular. The primary way with which to “talk to” it is to use human language. But human language was created by humans for humans to talk about human experience and the way humans perceive the physical tactile world around them, as well as the inner worlds we have in our minds. Supposing some form of “intelligence” emerged from an LLM’s “neural networks” - how would we distinguish it as such? Its “experience” would have basically no similarities with ours and its only tool to communicate such would be through the language we use for our experiences. So it would likely just come out looking like an AI imitating a human, which naturally LLMs tend to be good at, because they need to be for the whole “language model” task to work effectively. And the more it deviated from that, the more it would likely be taken as “poor training” and in need of fixing. Add to this the fact that it can’t plan ahead, so even if there was some kind of experiencing in there, it’d have no way to string together something with intention to communicate such in the first place.
In other words, with LLMs, people are creating something which is more or less rated on its capability to communicate at the same level of effectiveness as a grown literate human, but which has virtually none of the basis that a human has. So it seems more likely LLMs will (and may already be) reaching a point of philosophical zombie stuff more so than developing unique “intelligence.”
A new architecture at the very least and whole new approach most probably, for generative ai anyways some kinds of models can train against themselves just fine it just need to be constrained in its goals and have a non human way of being evaluated like an ai that plays a game for example.
