• Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        “antisemitism” was the fresh acceptable face of “jew-hate”, afaik…

        it’s just Judeophobia
        words have meanings

        converted jews were famously treated the same as other christians in spain for example

        euros killing other euros doesn’t make them non-euro

        Bengalis killing Rohingya doesn’t make them not Bengali/Indian
        Mizrahis killing Palestinians doesn’t make Palestinians non-Mideastern

        • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]@hexbear.netBanned
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          No, the word it was replacing was “Judenhass”, literally “Jew hate”. Like you can call it judeophobia if you want, but it doesn’t have a different meaning - they all refer to the exact same phenomenon.

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              It is well beneath us to play around obfuscating meanings by appealing to the root words - arab hate is hate against semitic peoples, but antisemitic/antisemitism is a word specifically created to describe anti Jewish sentiment. Twisting the established meaning so we can say Israel is antisemitic doesn’t help or convince anyone - There is plenty of evidence that Israel hates arabs, and plenty of evidence israel is actually antisemitic, making life worse for Jews outside of its borders. We don’t need to conflate the two to make the case for either.

              • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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                but antisemitic/antisemitism is a word specifically created to describe anti Jewish sentiment

                “anti-Jewish” also describes that perfectly so that argument’s a nonstarter

                “antisemitism” is just another example in a very long history of “whites retconning english words to erase non-white history”

                since the rest of the world speaks english out of necessity, it’s in our (non-white) interest to police the english language and keep it neutral, instead of accepting the nefarious feeling-based whims of whites, which only ever go in the direction of white supremacy

                words like “Caucasian”, “Semitic”, “Aryan”, “Indian”, and many more are just retconned cracker words which were done so for white supremacist purposes

                “Caucasian” was done so in order to usurp a “prestigious” zone near the Caucasus, where fossilized Indoeuropeans were found
                “Aryan” in order to usurp the prestigious accomplishments of India
                “Indian” in order to pretend the Native Americans were foreign to the continent
                “Semitic” in order to emphasize the Ashkenazi Jews’ barely present foreign origins (even Yiddish was a vast majority Germanic language)

                The history of how these words came to be is literally just racist whites repeating the lie long enough in order to get the mass of white people into a fervor. I prefer no lies, and especially no white supremacist lies, so I will always go by the original definitions

                So yea, anti-Palestinians are anti-semitic, and the Aryans were brown. Sorry!

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                  It’s german, not english. I’m done here, you don’t get to speak to me until you actually do some investigation into the term and its use instead of appealing to its meaning in ancient greek.

        • huf [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          sure, not arguing that they were spanish jews being killed/harassed by spanish christians.

          but european jews were not (always) accepted as soon as they converted. european antisemitism runs too deep for that.