Imagine believing that your life is just spread out over some “temporal dimension.” Hahaha. The self at 12 pm never flows to 12:00:01 pm. So the conscious experience of that self at 12pm never begins and never ends. That particular self simply has that one particular experience, and there’s not much else to be said. According to these weirdos, the experience would be “timeless.” Saying that the experience never ends could be misleading because it’s supposed to be “timeless.”

The B theory really isn’t conceivable, because it’s incompatible with conscious experience, but if you do try to imagine these zombies’ fake conscious experience, you get some kind of timeless thing that is obviously not what real experience is. The fact that they can’t understand this just proves their zombiehood.

  • DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyzEnglish
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    7 months ago

    I don’t know the first thing about B theory, but I can tell that you’re arguing from incredulity against a straw man.

    • DerisionConsulting@lemmy.caEnglish
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      7 months ago

      “I half-learned something, don’t quite understand what it actually is, but I want to feel smart by saying that I think other people are dumb”.

      Don’t get me wrong, the B-theory of time doesn’t hold up basic scrutiny, but “The self at 12 pm never flows to 12:00:01 pm” has nothing to do with it.

    • lililiIlil6457@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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      7 months ago

      There are two options: The self having an experience at 12pm flows to the next moments, or the self does not flow to new experiences in the next moments.

      The B theorists deny that anyone flows to a new experience, SO the self must simply experience 12pm eternally. But eternally may sound wrong because it can be interpreted as everlasting. Timeless might sound better, like how people say that if numbers existed, the numbers could be called either “timeless” or “eternal.”

      I concluded that the self must be eternally in that experience at 12pm, because there is no other conclusion.