This would be amazing for anyone heading out to the bays or Wellington Airport, no intersections or lights to worry about, and it would make life so much easier for the CBD as well, not having so much through traffic in the CBD.

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    7 months ago

    Maybe it’d be good, but this just feels like the Boris Johnson method of:

    • announce some fantastical massive project that’ll never get built but will pull some headlines for a bit
    • funnel some public money to cronies for contracting services to do a business case
    • quietly shelve it until it’s time to pull out something else for the same effect.

    If they want to reduce traffic congestion, expand public transport and make it more reliable and cheaper.

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      7 months ago

      This is being explored as an alternative to a second Terrace and Mt Vic tunnels, and sounds like just an idea for now.

      We desperately need to improve access to that area though, getting out to Miramar, Seatoun and Titahi Bay is a nightmare at times, including on weekends.

      And public transport can only do so much, it’s not an option for everyone.

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        It’s not an option because we neglect it to the point it’s not usable for a lot of trips.

        That doesn’t mean improvements aren’t possible, and they would help free up capacity on the existing road network. Roads are such a poor investment at this point, especially ones like these

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          7 months ago

          Can I use it for when I take my kayak out there? 5.5m long boat shouldn’t take up too much space in the bus, right?

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            7 months ago

            Sorry, not sure how investing in more PT options would require you to take a kayak on the bus.

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              7 months ago

              That’s not what I asked you.

              I’m pointing out why I won’t be taking the bus if I’m heading out that way.

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                7 months ago

                So then don’t, I didn’t say it must replace every single trip for it to have value

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                  7 months ago

                  The whole point of my reply was pointing out why public transport isn’t an option for me, and why, no matter how good it gets, we will need to upgrade our road infrastructure eventually.

                  Absolutely nobody has said it won’t help.

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                    I think their point is that we don’t necessarily need to upgrade road infrastructure. The majority of the people on roads could be using public transport.

                    Not the ones carrying kayaks or plumbing vans or disabled people that can’t get to a bus or train stop. But imagine how much better traffic would be for those people if all the other people were on public transport!

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          It’s not an option because I have a van full of tools, not because of the quality of the service.

          I swear, people like you must think everyone in the country works in an office.

          Yes, we could certainly improve public transport in Wellington, but as I said, it’s simply not an option for many people.

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            7 months ago

            I know this is a hard concept to grasp, but there are people out there who are not yourself who, if the option is there, will leave their cars at home meaning the roads are less congested overall.

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              I never said there weren’t. What I did say, using very small words, is that no matter how good public transport is, not everyone can use it.

              It’s a tough concept to grasp, it would seem.

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                7 months ago

                And what I said was not everyone needs to use it to benefit from it because unlike just blowing billions on more roads, it reduces congestion overall instead of adding to it.

                Anyway on the tunnel, fantasy at best, Tory grift at worst, probably both

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                What kind of an idiotic argument is “not everyone will use it”. Who was claiming that every single human being in the city would be using it?