Before their arrival, the Western warplanes had been held up by some as a potential war-winner that could turn the tide of the conflict in Kyiv’s favour.
“Often, we just don’t get the weapons systems at the time we need them – they come when they’re no longer relevant,” a Ukrainian high-ranking officer told the Politico news website.
“Every weapon has its own right time. F-16s were needed in 2023; they won’t be right for 2024.”
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Those jet fighters are so last year
F-16s are so pre 9/11
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They’re irrelevant because the Ghost of Kyiv is single handedly trashing Russia’s air force. /s
If you don’t want them, can I have them?
These articles are a health hazard. If my eyes roll any harder, they’ll end up permanently stuck facing the back of my head.
Lol meanwhile argentina is buying all of them
Milei is the new “libertarian” (read: neoliberal) darling.
Here’s your chance comrades! It’s time to guess what the next wonder weapon that wins the war will be!!
Minutemen nuclear missile
Nuland will personally ride it down Dr. Strangelove style.
Don’t give me hope
Taurus missiles, of course. G*rman engineering.
A nafo redditor loaded into a catapult.
I can see it now: “You’re sure to make the front page, fella! Godspeed!”
But according to Dutch libs Ukraine will win the war with the two and a half F16s we are going to send!
Will Ukraine ever actually get the F-16s? Russian air defences have been preparing for their arrival. Would be ironic if all that work was done for nothing.
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You think Russia routinely shots down random civilian planes just in case?
Kinda?
Would they even face Russian air defense? F-16’s are fast and nimble interceptors and area defense fighters, meaning they would be in the rear defending against Russian CAS, bombers, cruise missiles, and drones. They are more a defensive weapon then an offensive one, and their offensive capabilities are not that strong since that’s not their foray. Yes you can strap bombs to them, but that’s not their purpose.
How can F-16s engage without getting into Russian air defense range?
Mavericks air to ground has a 20km range. AMRAAM air to air is about 100km.
A Russian S-400 has 400km operational range. At the start of the war, a S-400 in south Belarus turned on its radar for a few minutes and shot down a Ukrainian MiG-29 all the way in Kyiv, which then crashed into an apartment building and the Ukrainians proceeded to blame the Russians for targeting civilian structures.
Big fans of watching what Israel is doing and giving it a whirl
Ukraine doesn’t have the know-how or logistics to maintain F-16s, hence the long waiting period. Any airfields in Ukraine with F-16s are likely to get struck and destroyed quickly by Russia.
It is a repeat of the Leopard, Challenger, Abrams tanks. The West postponed sending them as long as possible because they knew they’d get destroyed and wouldn’t live up to the hype. But boy did the hype feel good.
I’m guessing they’re negotiating for Poland to fix/maintain F-16s to then transport them back to Ukraine because no way will they actually take-off and land in Poland. They do the same with Leopard tanks and Caesar SPGs, they get shipped to the EU for repairs. I imagine Poland is being difficult about it because of the protests and the unpopularity of supporting Ukraine military among the Polish population, hence the delay.
All of these deals and arrangements happen behind closed doors.
I’m guessing they’re negotiating for Poland to fix/maintain F-16s
Poland can’t even maintain their own F16’s, because the deal with US was so shitty that most of things above routine maintenance has to be done by US personnel and parts are apparently so expensive that around half up to 2/3rd are unable to flight with many being cannibalised for parts.
F-16s are not going to help. They need state-of-the-art F-35 stealth multirole fighters if they want to have a chance.
The US has more than 700 F-35s, and the Ukrainians need to have access to as many of them as possible for a coordinated strike to stand a chance against Russia.
I’m not sure that Ukraine has the infrastructure needed to support any number of f-35s, especially not since the Russians have bombed all their runways.
I agree, not even the US does.
I guess this is what lend-lease is for. Could work if it wasn’t too late. It’s a war zone now.
Bro gimme some of them F-35s bro. Bro you have Israel some do you like them more than me or something bro? Bro come on bro I just need like 20 bro. Bro come on I’m not gonna ask for anything else bro.
