This is the art I received for my main character.

In a space-age afterlife where your body (and some relevant aspects of your mind) is determined by what your psyche wants, Chris Foster becomes a very young child again so they can deal with trauma. Here they choose the name “Solemn” and embark on their personal journey of self-discovery, mental health tools, and what it means to have real, loving family for the first time.

But when political activists kill off the seraphs (the afterlife’s demigod social workers and keepers of the peace) it is up to Solemn— who for non-convoluted reasons has become a seraph themself— and their newfound family and others who will fight to restore the compassion and dignity of this afterlife.

My novel is in its third draft and it’s super rich and I love to talk about it any chance I get. Ask questions or offer to look at the public draft, please! 💙

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    8 months ago

    this sounds fascinating!

    I’ve only ever once commissioned art of my characters before (just one, and it was a rough sketch with some canons from a video game) but I know it made me really excited and it’s been my phone’s lock screen for four years. I have no artistic talent so to see one of my creations come to life still makes me smile.

    what made Chris choose the name Solemn? what made you as the writer decide to write this kind of main character? who are the political activists? and lastly, what made you choose the afterlife as a setting?

    those are just some questions that came to me off the top of my head! I know how much I love talking about writing so I wanted to give you the space to gush and chat about yours.

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      Heck yeah!

      Alright, so. I actually had a horrible childhood since infancy, and Chris/Solemn is semi-autobiographical. The novel explores not so much the events in Solemn’s history, as how it affects them now, focusing on healing and on the craving for loving family that they had since they were small. Like Chris, I also fantasized from a very young age about being rescued from abuse, neglect, and abandonment by strangers, who would pity, love, and care for me. And so the novel explores Chris discovering and grappling with attachment disorder among the other issues. When I was that age, I also wanted to be Don Bluth; and I spent most of my life writing, drawing, and creating music that channeled my trauma, feelings, and what I was learning into art.

      My novel’s spiritual predecessors always had that intelligent child character. I both wanted them to be a “woobie” child, but also able to have experienced enough to become “broken”, and to learn to heal. And I wanted the power fantasy where they saved their family and the world. While in previous ideas the setting was different, I ultimately settled on an afterlife to raise the stakes; to allow the setting to more naturally encourage talk about healing, self-improvement, and important timely topics; and to allow a true “happily ever after” wish fulfillment. So this afterlife the novel takes place in now has really cool themes and features. Reincarnation pods that determine your new body based on what your psyche wants, all situated on the space station Advent Terminus. Spaceships, sub-light travel, psychic features and tech that work with them, and a lot of domestic technology that makes living and productivity easier. I wouldn’t call this “hard sci-fi” by a long shot, but it is pretty well-thought-out, grounded, and pragmatic. Seraphs themselves have science fantasy powers— telepathy between seraphs (which has a really cool explanation that factors into the plot in several ways), and “ionic fields” they form around their bodies or other objects. The ionic fields separate them from outside matter and forces, which allows for defying gravity (flight), telekinesis, near-invulnerability, and sub-light travel at .9x. Spaceships and Advent Terminus also use ionic fields to keep in atmosphere, maintain gravity, leave or enter a planet’s atmosphere easily, and travel at .3x.

      For Chris’s new name, they didn’t want anyone from Earth to remember them. They wanted to start anew. The first night that Chris’s new foster mom brings them home, she validates Chris’s bad life and their deserving to be loved. She then reads them a poem about appreciating the duality of a bad day, called “Sing a Solemn Song”. So they choose the name “Solemn”.

      As for the political side, seraphs separate humans to one of four of the five planets based on simple and pragmatic definitions of their ethical and emotional maturity, and encourage individuals to improve themselves so they can “ascend” to another planet in the solar system if they wish. Seraphs are social workers and keepers of the peace, and only get involved in government if human rights are being systemically violated. This system allows people to become better so they can move away from a more problematic and exploitative planet/society, potentially to the paradisical planet. But peoples’ lives are generally pretty good regardless of the planet, due to the foundations seraphs set and make sure are still working, as well as the seraphs’ social work when needed.

      So about the planet separation. Eris is for people who believe they are good, or want to be good, but who struggle to challenge their flaws. They might be, say, your grandma who goes to church and helps with charity, but who believe interracial marriage and trans people are bad. Or they might be self-righteous against, say, people who do casual drug usage. Nemesis however is for people who know they are harmful and simply don’t yet care. So Nemesis is a soft prison where people have their own homes and jobs, but seraphs have more say in laws and they make sure people are separated better so they’re not harming others. So what if people from Nemesis want to become better, so they are allowed to leave? Well, a lot of people on Eris don’t believe in forgiveness or in rehabilitation, and they often rely on platforms of self-righteousness and fear. And KAPE is the most-prominent group of such people, and are political activists. And our husband-and-wife main villain duo are at the head of this.

      What’s more is this issue extends to Solemn’s new family— though I won’t spoil why. Something happens concerning it, and… long story short, Solemn becomes a seraph. But when the seraphs are killed by the main antagonists and KAPE, Solemn isn’t affected nearly as much due to the psychic feature I vaguely mentioned before, and they are the last seraph remaining. Until our villain duo kidnaps Solemn to read their mind and learn how it happened (same way minds are read when first arriving so seraphs can present the body you want to you, and place and help you when you are reincarnated). Then the husband becomes a beefed up seraph, and the spouses and their KAPE military continue their war on the world order.

      The villains, Solemn’s family members, and the supporting characters (including their helper android Iota) are all really richly-developed and cool, too, and have their own major struggles that factor into the story heavily. But that’s another post altogether.

      If you have any more questions, I would love to answer them. I love getting questions or feedback. I also upload a semi-public WIP draft as I work on it, if you want to see any of it. I warn though that it’s still cheesy or unfocused at a few points.

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        8 months ago

        hey! sorry replying to this took so long, I have had some mental health struggles.

        I can definitely relate to writing about those topics. I feel like it’s a really good way to cope, because it’s what I used my entire childhood as well, but also to explore those issues in a controlled environment. although I wouldn’t call it someone extending “pity” towards you, you’re seeking sympathy, and I know it’s easy to fall into that trap but wording is important!

        I used to always write younger characters (though they were always teenagers) being taken care of by an older character, always an adoptive sibling situation, because I have no siblings but always wanted one. parents were never part of it. I think you and I want the same things in our writing – the healing aspect is really important instead of breaking the character over and over, which is something I see a lot of writers enjoy in the spaces I used to be in. it’s something I think is important for people to see (even though I don’t write publicly anymore), especially people who might be going through their own struggling.

        I envy your ability to write sci-fi, I’ve never been able to write it in a way I was happy with. my favorite has always been “soft sci-fi” or “sci-fi that makes sense but we’re not going to do any math or science okay?” hahaha. just because unless it’s pretty simple (which yours sounds like it is) my poor single brain cell fries itself trying to remember and parse everything.

        when you say reincarnation pods that determine what your new body is based on what psyche wants, does that mean even if people reincarnate, they don’t leave the afterlife? and also, does that mean you don’t really have any control over it? so someone who, say, is not in touch with or not open to admitting they’re something (like take gender identity for example) might end up having to stare that in the face? if so, I think that’s really cool! it makes for a really interesting plot to explore, even if you as the author don’t end up taking that route for any of the characters.

        I love that choice for Chris’s new name! Solemn is also just really pretty. the choice to use a name change to represent starting anew is also very nice.

        when you say “beefed up seraph”, what does that entail? extra powers?

        and can you tell me more about Solemn’s new family? I love secondary/supporting characters. I have a curse with them ending up my favorites.

        I’m not currently in a place where I would be very good at reading the WIP, but I do really appreciate you extending the offer. I understand if you can’t reveal too much because of you working on it, too! and of course, I wish you lots of luck and inspiration in that process.

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        8 months ago

        Why? Because – and while I applaud you paying someone to do the art – the art reminded me of Nazi Propaganda. I was saddened to see another idealized blonde haired, blue-eyed Jugend/baby getting elevated to special reigning status. Most of the world is dark haired and brown-eyed. Why give Nazis yet another piece of fiction to subtly push the zeitgeist into believing the abnormal caucus folk are better than the lower masses?

        Less related, but stylistically similar: https://germangirlinamerica.com/history-hummel-figurines/

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          You know, I normally wouldn’t engage people like you, but all you’re doing is making me excited.


          List of some characters in my novel featuring an afterlife with everyone in it, in no particular order:

          Main: Chris Foster / Solemn Oliver. Born in Minnesota, a state which I live in

          Supporting: Chris’s social worker on Earth: African American male, lives in Minnesota


          Senna: Caucasian-looking female angel, “hair like the sun”, psychologist

          Ona: Asian-looking female angel, black hair, program coordinator

          Theeb: Middle-Eastern-looking male angel, black hair, attorney

          All three have stark white irisis, as seraphs do


          Main antagonist: Frank Callous: Caucasian male, born in 1840, fought for women’s rights in the US in 1870+. Is villain duo with his new wife


          Faraji: 11-year-old Tanzanian boy, on “orphan train” with Solemn

          Wai: 4-year-old Chinese girl, on “orphan train” with Solemn

          Callum: 13-month-old Scottish boy, on “orphan train” with Solemn

          All three cared for gently by Ona on the trip, and she speaks to Wai in Mandarin and to Faraji in Swahili


          Main: Lu Montsely. Caucasian female, Chris’s foster mom, strawberry-blonde hair, born in a Southern state (like my parents)

          Tony Oliver: Caucasian husband of Lu

          Kelly Vargas: Caucasian, sister to Lu

          Alejandro Vargas: Mexican-American, husband of Kelly

          Main: Jessi Vargas: Mexican-American 19-year-old, snarky ass-kicker, daughter of Kelly & Alejandro


          Alistair: African American male, best friend of Jessi

          Zoey: Caucasian female, redhead, born male on Earth, best friend of Jessi

          Samuel Salgado: South American man (unknown country), runs pet store on Nemesis, interesting info about vice vs. choice


          Mitzi: German woman, caregiver for regressees at her foster home

          Nikolai: Russian caretaker at Mitzi’s home

          Ms. Zuri: African caregiver at Mitzi’s home

          “Princess”: European, (unknown country), Caucasian girl, 5-year-old regressee

          Kimimila, “Kimmy” for short. Native American girl, intellectual, 12-year-old regressee

          Brandon: Tanned probably-American boy, 10, regressee


          Émeric: French man, liaison for Solemn’s family

          Villagers of Yéva Nol: Many of them proto-humans, as early as 50k to 100k years old. Dark-skinned, smart and awesome

          Enki: One of the villagers of Yéva Nol, Mesopotamian, super charismatic

          Nila: Indian young woman who lives in Yéva Nol, and Jessi’s new romantic interest. Talks about the benefits of both individualistic vs. collectivist social thinking


          Solemn themself is asexual, aromantic, and agender/gender-curious.

          Zoey is MtF trans and is writing a book on the “joys of gradual transitioning” instead of getting the body you want the moment you are reincarnated

          Jessi is lesbian, Nila is at the least into girls (Jessi)

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            8 months ago

            It is good to hear that there are some non-whites in your story. Since there was no detail in your initial post, the art of an Aryan Angel did not inspire me to ask any question except, “Yet another blonde hero?” I get very tired of “white man’s burden” stories featuring white men picking themselves up and solving problems that ‘others’ could not overcome.

            It sounds like your hero strays from the archetype enough to be atypical, so hopefully s/he realizes some reliance on the vital contributions of ‘others’ along their journey, too. All I’m saying is that the initial art didn’t speak to of any of that. The only thing it said to me was ‘racist agitprop’ (though not of the historic/Russian variety).

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    Looks very nice, and story sounds interesting!

    Not that it matters, but it looks like some if the typical generative AI cues are present (looking at eyes, button, fingers, especially).

    Out of curiosity, could you share how much did you pay the artist (ballpark)? And were you expecting something “handmade”, or did you know you were getting AI generated (if that is the case, of course).

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      Also, if you want more details on the world or on why I am writing this, I posted a giant wall of text in the replies here. (Plus a list of character diversity, but that’s not the one I mean.)

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      Four people suggested this was AI-made, and I’m gonna be honest that it’s frustrating (not that I’m mad at you). I like to keep all stages of commissions; and so I have all dozen or so stages, plus the redline-work I did and sent back to them to help them understand what I was going for.

      The art style in this pic isn’t how I see Solemn in my head; but it gets the broad strokes down, and I find that it looks more like Solemn to me the more I look at it. I do wish it were more accurate to real body and feature shapes and proportions, but there’s only so many edits I can request before it starts being rude/frustrating.

      I paid this person $60 for their work, on Fiverr. They have a nice (and consistent) portfolio, and I told them they could put this pic up on it too!

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        Sorry, it wasn’t meant in any negative way, and could have been worded much better. I can see how that would be annoying, and I’ll try to do better in the future 😊

        I’d love to see the sketch work, curious how your vision of Solemn differs from the end result 🙂

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          All the characters in my novel are supposed to have very accurate body and face curves, and accurate feature proportions and shapes. It’s almost like anti-stylization in that area. In my head I don’t see a lot of fine detail; but the accurate curves and shapes help give the idea that the work is more adult and sophisticated; while the flatter semi-watercolored colors I see in my head really help with the science fantasy look and with the moodiness the work often has. Eventually I’ll get the professional artist who will capture this!