It’s like, at first, it was relatively apolitical except maybe the New Atheists who got popular by criticizing the mostly right-wing religious nutjobs.

But then, I think around the mid-2010s, it started to get super political. Suddenly, everybody started to talk about how the evil wacky feminazi SJWs were trying to destroy gaming and our culture?

At this point, it seems like many people have snapped out of it and are making fun of these “anti-woke” crazies, but what materially caused this phenomenon to happen in the first place and why does it still persist to an extent?

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    Honestly though, the direct direct direct answer to your question as phrased, “what caused internet/nerd culture to go full-on fascist [in the mid-2010s]?” is just GamerGate. That’s it. That was kinda the moment that all the right-leaning nerds who hated women that wouldn’t date them realized there were other right-leaning nerds that also hated women, and they very publicly organized around it, formed forums about it, and basically created the modern alt-right.

    Before that, like, the loudest nerd voices on the internet were like Wil Wheaton whose core tenet was “Don’t be a dick”, and the loudly anti-copyright Cory Doctorow. They got drowned out by the forces of reaction.

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      Yep, gamergate, Steve Bannon and algorithms starting to trend towards the inflammatory.

      Also the SJWs, hot off their cultural kill streak, finally extended too far with demanding pronouns. It’s ivory tower level privilege to demand the world bend around you, and then do it again, for every single person who identifies as whatever they feel like. The “I identify as an attack helicopter” really summed up the zeitgeist and capped the cultural narrative. That was the moment where the right crystalized into a mirror to point out the pronoun lunacy - and it absolutely is, if you think otherwise, get over yourself. Nowhere in anywhere, ever, do we see people just make ridiculous demands on people like that and it EVER work. Like, is every meet and greet, business networking party just gonna start with 2 hours of writing down everyone’s him/hers/zlers/swishes/a12x2 whatever nonsense? No. Never. Sorry. In a perfect world, maybe, but we got a lot of work to do before even that level of perfection can be reached, I’m not thrilled about it either.

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        what are you even on about lol. I don’t even know where to start in this diatribe, but I find the “there’s no time to ask everyone pronouns” part funny when corporate events already spend a ton of time on ‘team-building’ exercises and affirmations.

        You know also you can just ask people these before the event?

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        >lemm.ee

        >‘ivory tower level privilege’ (to request proper acknowledgement; when I know you’d throw a father-fucking fit if someone questioned your identity and where you deem yourself to fit within the social hierarchy)

        >‘the right had a point’ (about it being ‘lunacy’ to request proper acknowledgement from crackers dead set on disrespecting those with alternate pronouns) (isn’t respect supposed to be a core tenet of fascist ideologies, you prick?)

        >helicopter memes (yup, you’re just a fascist)

        ok settler, go back to /pol/. Everyone who uses Outlook in my workplace has their pronouns at the bottom of their signature block, you’re just DELIBERATELY being a shithead.

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          Was talking to this POS in another thread, they were saying some very sus things about Israel, insisting that Israel isn’t really the US’s “friend” because Israel doesn’t directly send troops to fight in US wars or something.

          I tried to give them the benefit of the doubt and asked them to clarify, but a part of me wondered whether they were being openly antisemitic and were literally trying to argue that (((Israel))) is secretly running the US. Now I know why they never actually gave me a straight answer when I asked them to clarify, because they’re a fascist. And to think, I just assumed they were a garden variety debatebro!

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        There is the nature of what gets clicks. Clicks of inflamitory exaggerations of what Anita Sarkesian was up to. She would make a presentations for corporations to tell them that women are a market for games and they should be appealed to. Somehow in reactionary brain this meant that games can’t be made for 20 something manchildren. People just straight up lied about all kinds of shit and made fun of hot takes with 5 upvotes on twitter as if this meant something.