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    2 years ago

    Denying genocide Ukrainian azovites 🤜🤛Ukrainian makhnovites

    Ps, just a joke, azovites were committing a genocide before Russia annihilated them, but as far as I know makhno was just killing his political opponents

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      makhno was just killing his political opponents

      He was also accused of pogroms of Jews. Idk if he personally ordered it, but there were pogromists in his forces and he was aware of that.

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          2 years ago

          And to put it into perspective, that still makes his army as one of the least antisemitic forces in the civil war (excluding bolsheviks od course). For example when Poles fought with Ukrainians in western Ukraine basically whomever won celebrated victory by doing pogrom.

          Polish propaganda about that is especially disgusting:

          We attacked Ukraine - based. Also bolsheviks bad.

          We used child soldiers because our military is incompetent and Ukrainians for some reason defended themselves - based kids heroes. Also bolsheviks bad.

          Ukrainians kills our child soldiers while our commanders count buttons on their coats - uhh, what, i can’t hear you over the cheering for the little heroes. Also bolsheviks bad.

          We defeat Ukrainians and immediately do a pogrom - crickets. Also bolsheviks bad.

          Did we mention that bolsheviks bad?

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    I hope their own community critiques this and holds themselves to a higher standard because this “Communists just as bad as Nazis” talking point doesn’t help anyone on the left. I know in my country, most real-life anarchists are anarcho-communists (and they are decent to talk to IRL about Marxism), so this online kiddie shit sucks.

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      I seriously hope. In Poland there were some based anarchists long ago, but for few years there are mostly larpers and squatters variety. And both are as anticommunist as average PiS fan. Maybe even more because 90% of arguments for PiS i heard in the real world are praising not the PiS neoliberalism (the real thing) but the PiS populism (the fig leaf over the neoliberalism, but all other parties including succdems don’t even have this fig leaf).

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    2 years ago

    Elaboration is needed from their side. Tankies deny the genocides which are fabrication of the western propaganda. Fascist deny or don’t care about the ones which did happened.