Yes we also don’t favour neonazi wishful thinking and were also never pretending otherwise.
Unless of course they mean deprogram sub, it’s full of westolefto pretending to be marxists, but immediately more or less aligning with NATO when Ukraine is in question.
I can’t speak for the subreddit, but I love the podcast and I’m definitely not a NATO enjoyer. I’m surprised that there are people that are who listen.
There are also ML’s there of course. However, some topics cause all manner of shitty utopians to come out of woodwork: religion, Gonzalo, US veterans, Deng Xiaoping and of course Ukraine war. Main problem with centrists is that they are NATO enjoyers in practice, because when they bothside the imperialist hegemon, they are effectively siding with imperialists.
I wish, hope and other such words that the constant stream of “revolutionary defeatism” regurgitated without thought is a sign that these are baby leftists in the process of learning. I hope this because it can very well be a radlib using some out-of-context bit of theory their favourite youtuber told them to use, and that’s just not a nice possibility.
I think this is the case that makes the most sense. I think the Deprogram is designed for people with essentially no Marxist understanding. That would lead to the listeners of it (and hence the participants in its sub) to likely just say whatever they hear the most (and they will always hear how the Russians are “evil invaders of Ukraine who are killing civilians”) and they will assume that to be true because, simply put, they don’t much about it. And if they think that to be the sole truth and for it to be truly that simple of course they will think Russia=Bad and Ukraine=Good.
Yes we also don’t favour neonazi wishful thinking and were also never pretending otherwise.
Unless of course they mean deprogram sub, it’s full of westolefto pretending to be marxists, but immediately more or less aligning with NATO when Ukraine is in question.
Many people there need to be deprogrammed. With the occasional sealioning lib to get murdered chapo style.
I’m kinda ashamed at myself by the low frequency of cases where i demand posting hog from random brigadiers.
I can’t speak for the subreddit, but I love the podcast and I’m definitely not a NATO enjoyer. I’m surprised that there are people that are who listen.
There are also ML’s there of course. However, some topics cause all manner of shitty utopians to come out of woodwork: religion, Gonzalo, US veterans, Deng Xiaoping and of course Ukraine war. Main problem with centrists is that they are NATO enjoyers in practice, because when they bothside the imperialist hegemon, they are effectively siding with imperialists.
Ah, now that you mention it I see this in a lot of leftist circles. It’s a shame that people can be so close, yet so far.
I wish, hope and other such words that the constant stream of “revolutionary defeatism” regurgitated without thought is a sign that these are baby leftists in the process of learning. I hope this because it can very well be a radlib using some out-of-context bit of theory their favourite youtuber told them to use, and that’s just not a nice possibility.
I think this is the case that makes the most sense. I think the Deprogram is designed for people with essentially no Marxist understanding. That would lead to the listeners of it (and hence the participants in its sub) to likely just say whatever they hear the most (and they will always hear how the Russians are “evil invaders of Ukraine who are killing civilians”) and they will assume that to be true because, simply put, they don’t much about it. And if they think that to be the sole truth and for it to be truly that simple of course they will think Russia=Bad and Ukraine=Good.