Heute wurde das #Ghostbike für #Natenom aufgestellt.
Vor 10 Tagen waren (laut @ghostbikebot) in #OpenStreetMap schon 770 Ghostbikes markiert.
Über https://mapcomplete.org/ghostbikes lassen sich die #Ghostbikes relativ einfach einpflegen, auch ohne #OSM-Kenntnisse.
#StopKillingCyclists #VisionZero
#mapcomplete #Verkehrswende
@StephanMatthiesen@troet.cafe @mastobikes@a.gup.pe @fedibikes_de@a.gup.pe Similarly, the bike might be placed at a different location then the incident. Should we also save that information? Should we save information about what other vehicles were involved in the incident? Should we register the weather conditions? The speed and direction all vehicles were going to? The names of the emergency responders?
Why is the date of the incident something we value so much in this context?
@StephanMatthiesen@troet.cafe @mastobikes@a.gup.pe @fedibikes_de@a.gup.pe
Collecting the data about the above answers might be useful for some people involved - people grieving the loss, people trying to understand what happened or by activists or city planners who want to improve the situation.
However, OpenStreetMap is not the right place to collect this data in. It is the right place to collect information about the physical object - the ghost bike, but it is not the right place for all this other information.
@StephanMatthiesen@troet.cafe @mastobikes@a.gup.pe @fedibikes_de@a.gup.pe
For the other information, I’d like to point to Wikidata/Wikipedia, which is a better fit for this.
(For those unfamiliar with Wikidata: it is a database where one can enter statements about pretty much everything)
As such, one could make a Wikidata-entry (with linked Wikipedia article) about the person who was killed in the crash - and link to this from the ghost bike.
Similarly, one could make a wikidata entry about the accident and link it.
@StephanMatthiesen@troet.cafe @mastobikes@a.gup.pe @fedibikes_de@a.gup.pe
(This technique is also used to link a street to the person/object/… that the street is named after, as visible in https://mapcomplete.org/etymology )
This way, one could write and see a nice article and relevant pictures about the person who was killed directly from the map or add all relevant details to a wikidata entry about the fatal crash.
@StephanMatthiesen@troet.cafe @mastobikes@a.gup.pe @fedibikes_de@a.gup.pe
I hope that this answers your question why the “date of the crash” is not in the ghostbike map, whereas “date of installation” is.
It also feels a bit uncomfortable to give such a dry and technical answer about a very emotional topic - I have ties with the local cycling association and helped with placing Ghost bikes as well. Every time, I hope that there won’t be the need to place more of them, but there just are so much killings by (huge) cars…