@RememberUsAlways @DrALJONES @palestine
HAMAS would not exist if Zionism did not exist. Palestinians were minding their own business when all of a sudden in came the Europeans to take everything. Just like in the 1500’s in America. Hamas tactics are what they are, but they are a Resistance movement. The western world has classified *them* as terrorists, but the Israeli government isn’t? That’s where my HAMAS= terrorism idea is flushed down the toilet.
@nathaliaassaad
Fair rebuttal., though blaming Europeans over a war between two groups that long preceded Europe’s intervention and were ultimately acted out Jews and arabs is still a bad take. Not to say that it is entirely wrong, it isnt, Europe, along with the rest of the UN, certainly made things worse. They also weren’t the actors.
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@freemo @nathaliaassaad @RememberUsAlways @DrALJONES @palestine
2 groups? I think you need to read more about the history of this conflict. Palestine was inhabited since the 12th century by Muslims (90%), Jews (5%)and Christians (5%). You could say that today’s Muslims are the descendants of Jews that never left and converted to Christianity then to Islam. Current problem starts with the British Mandate Era, IMO to get rid of European Jews
@nathaliaassaad
I just spent 2 years there going around pallestine and Israel witht he express purpose of learning things first hand… not sure what other research you expect me to be doing…
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@freemo
I’m sure your views of the conflict is as extensive and impartial as the rest of the hasbara army voices on this group.
I removed the image because some people don’t seem to like it and replaced it with a real image of IDF’s cyber army.
@DrALJONES @RememberUsAlways @palestine @nathaliaassaad
@faab64 @DrALJONES @nathaliaassaad @RememberUsAlways@newsie.social @palestine @freemo
you had me until you did this…
@crashglasshouses
Seriously?
@nathaliaassaad @palestine @freemo @DrALJONES
@faab64 @DrALJONES @nathaliaassaad @palestine @freemo
yeah fucken seriously. that image is racist af. it won’t hurt the IDF or Netanyahu, Zionists use it as an excuse for their behaviour. but it sure will hurt all of the anti-Zionist Jews who are a necessary component for Palestinian justice.
@crashglasshouses@kolektiva.social
Ok so IDF is a race.
I guess I delete it then.
@nathaliaassaad@mastodon.world @palestine@a.gup.pe @freemo@mastodon.acm.org @DrALJONES@mastodon.social
@faab64 @DrALJONES @nathaliaassaad @palestine @freemo
you’re making the same argument as people who say “Muslim isn’t a race”. check yr head.
@faab64 @DrALJONES @nathaliaassaad @RememberUsAlways @palestine @freemo
Bruh I’ve been active in the movement for over 15 years including a boots on the ground participant in the International Solidarity Movement, and have no sympathy for zionism whatsoever, but thats an antisemitic meme, playing on the trope that jews have massive noses. Keep that trash out of the solidarity movement, it mixes facts that are points of actual Palestinian advocacy (that Israel deploys an online propaganda army, ie hasbara) with the antisemitic trope that jews have giant noses, which either serves to normalize antisemitism or make Palestine supporters appear antisemitic, and JDL has attempted to subvert us with the latter for ages so I dont readily believe when faceless accounts post this stuff.
@rml@functional.cafe
Faceless accounts posting this stuff.
Ok dude. You want my face on my profile?
@DrALJONES@mastodon.social @nathaliaassaad@mastodon.world @RememberUsAlways@newsie.social @palestine@a.gup.pe @freemo@mastodon.acm.org .
@faab64@venera.social @DrALJONES@mastodon.social @nathaliaassaad@mastodon.world @RememberUsAlways@newsie.social @palestine@a.gup.pe @freemo@mastodon.acm.org
if thats your response rather than taking the meme down and saying youre sorry you didnt notice, I’ll just assume you’re an antisemite
@faab64 @DrALJONES @nathaliaassaad @RememberUsAlways@newsie.social @palestine @freemo
I’m 100% pro-palestinian but this image is racist, unacceptable and actually hurts the Palestinian cause.
EDIT: I just realized that you changed the image, but for some reason the racist photo is the one shown to me in the instance I’m on. Maybe it’s a problem in the federation between Friendica and Mastodon.
@DrALJONES @nathaliaassaad @freemo @ghazi
I’m done.
I am no longer posting here.
Being called IDF agent with some jerk is my red line.
Enjoy your day.
I keep posting on my stream and videos on my telegran channel.
But never here again.
@palestine
@faab64 @palestine @DrALJONES @nathaliaassaad @freemo
Calling you an IDF agent is a bit of an exaggeration in my opinion, but you should have known better than posting an image like that.
@DrALJONES @nathaliaassaad @freemo @ghazi
Whatever,
Now get lost.
@faab64 @DrALJONES @nathaliaassaad @palestine @freemo
Dude it’s okay to admit you fucked up, you don’t have to be rude. Makes you look immature.