Hello! Apologies for wearing my moderator hat, but things have happened that made me feel the need to amend the rules a bit. Starting from now, there is a new rule for Horny Furry Chat:
No content that glorifies or normalizes sexual acts with minors or non-furry animals, even in a fictional context. “Non-furry animal” is defined as any animal that that lacks human-like intelligence and thus cannot consent.
Update: While the statement about consent is indeed true, it did not add anything except ambiguity to the rule itself.
Update 2: Just some more clarifications:
- No content that glorifies or normalizes sexual acts with minors or non-furry animals, even in a fictional context. “Non-furry” animals are those that are visually and behaviourally similar to real life animals and lack human level reasoning.
While I understand an argument could be made that fictional depictions of acts “cannot hurt people”, that’s a sentiment I’m weary of allowing in a space like this.
I’ve also tried to word things in a way that does not exclude discussions about ferals, or roleplaying as ferals. However, that’s not a group I’m too involved in, so I’d appreciate feedback if I’ve missed the mark there.
Of course, yiffit.net instance rules supersede rules for this community. If instance rules change or are clarified in a way that makes this rule redundant, I’ll just remove it and probably just delete/close this thread.
Anyway, I’d appreciate people’s thoughts on the matter; I can always revert or change the rules later. I also locked the community last night before going to bed “just in case”, but it is now unlocked again.
Update as well: By the way, it’s not my intention to enforce these rules with an iron fist, I’m just trying to figure out a way to keep unsavory comments out whilst still allowing a wide range of conversation topics.
… Wait, does this exclude hentai tentacles, slime monsters and other sexual automata? Wow, turns out it’s hard to exactly specify rules matching an abstract concept of morality.
I guess I’ll see how I can word it to allow those, maybe by saying “realistic non-furry animal”? Idk.
It is a very difficult topic. Ngl I have even troubles sleeping, since that discussion post is haunting me. I’ve noticed that I start to contradict myself, which I hate.
I still think it is wrong to criminalize and harass based on fictional work. But we still should give ourselves boundaries.
I see what you want to achieve, as everyone with common sense should.
But still, how about:
This should still exclude ferals, since they are sometimes only visually similar to real life entities, but certainly not behaviorally.
It’s brought up questions for me as well, like where the line is between “okay” and “not okay”. Especially since some friends I’ve asked seem to draw the line much stricter than I’m doing here. And bring up the uncomfortable comparison to loli stuff.
I think crossing the line, wherever it may be, means it’s no longer furry. While this community isn’t necessarily restricted to just furry topics, I don’t aim for it to be a place for everything. This is not the place to talk about weed, politics, the band you just went to etc. There might be a place for bestiality talk, but it’s not here.
Thanks for your suggestion on the wording, it makes sense to me. I’ll probably still keep it explicitly mentioning minors and animals though, I can see arguments happening as to what entities require “special protection” or not.
Might be overthinking this. The instance rules already don’t allow most IRL content and anything that looks underage, so that more controversial stuff is not even an issue here and it might be a little redundant to make another rule about it. Probably the most edgy thing that’s left to worry about are drawings of zoo/beast stuff, which you could probably exclude just on the basis that it’s off-topic or no longer considered “furry”.
Edit: If things ever get too confusing, I always bring it back to the fantasy vs. reality standard. It’s one of the few principles I’ve found that holds up to scrutiny and helps moderators maintain their sanity. Otherwise it’s way too easy to justify or rationalize any number of reasons why a particular kink is right or wrong, and it usually devolves into how the individual feels in the moment.