Even though our country is a communist country, it’s pretty hard to find any Marxist, or even someone that really understand what communism actually is among the average people. So I’m trying to find out if there’s any Vietnamese lurking here at Lemmygrad. Show yourselves comrades!
Im Chinese/European and live in Vietnam sometimes for work, i used to be there full time in HCMC but am not now. I had a few friends who are mostly leftists but it was sad how few even knew anything about the history or about Uncle Ho
The people like to connect our country’s past suffering to communism to shit on it and say that we are better off right now because we get to have whatever the fuck Westerners have.
The Vietnam War only 50 years ago? Have people already forgotten? What do the older generations say about that?
Do people still long for the American dream after having been bombed back into the Stone Age? Sprayed with biological and chemical weapons? Massacred?
Oh that’s interesting. Is Marxism taught in schools at all?
It is taught briefly in national universities but barely anyone give a shit about it. Students just think of it as something you have to go thru to graduate.
People tell me the sentiment is the same in China
I am not Chinese so I cannot speak to the exact situation, but that seems to depend on the location.
Beijing? Hardcore communist strongpoint with Marxism a strong focus in local politics, universities, and civilian life.
Shanghai? Extremely liberal and nearly devoid of communist influence, with strong western leanings.
Is Shanghai really as liberal as people say it is? I have my doubts, but I do know there are a shit ton of capitalist bootlickers in Shanghai.
It saddens me because I’d love to live in Shanghai or Shenzhen, but the liberal atmosphere and the threat of flooding piss me off.
My family’s from there and we’ve definitely felt that Shanghai is extremely westernized and liberal, even down to the smug moral superiority complex that western libs (the reddit types) have.
Many are pro-west and attribute the city’s success to opening up to west while downplaying a bit the fact that it’s due to the effective direct administration by the central government. Definitely have heard a few of them complain that the city government is not “ruled by true local old Shanghai-ers” and thus not putting their interests ahead of everything else.
What other cities besides Shanghai would you recommend for the same feel? Like say Chengdu.
Shanghai’s also quite expensive too…
There was a saying a while ago about “If you want to feel history, visit Beijing/Xi’An. To feel modernity, visit Shanghai. To experience the future, visit Shenzhen.”
Haven’t been to them but if you enjoy spicy food you should have a decent time in Sichuan. Hunan (Chairman Mao’s birthplace) might also be worth a visit.
That’s really interesting I hadn’t heard that before.
