According to Section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty:

The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.

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      Your neighbor has a gun pointed right at you loudly declaring his intent to use it. But it’s your fault for getting the police involved so he doesn’t shoot you, even though you agreed not to call the cops when he let you out of his basement.

      You guys really want Russia to be the good guy in this, huh?

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        You really want russia to be the bad guy, dont you? Do you actually read what we write or are you committed to shilling for a Nazi state?

        dude being neutral is not when you coup the real ukraine government, install a bunch of right wing losers, and then try to join the fucking GIANT ANTI-RUSSIA MILITARY ALLIANCE

        What, are Hamas terrorists now? Houthis the bad guys worthy of bombing for distrupting trade routes? Does Iraq have WMDs? Are we going to pretend the Gulf of Tonkin ‘incident’ was legit? The Bay of Pigs was totally not done by us? Sending weapons to Osama Bin Laden was a very smart and good idea? This is the kind of shit the US says many times a decade, the whole US bloc lies to get into war and you fucking ducks waddle behind them and think yourself enlightened. Get a grip

        I would say that you cannot possibly be this childish, but im afraid that everyone here knows the real answer. Just fuck off you politically inept loser.

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              Don’t -> won’t

              You guys really don’t understand how you alienate yourselves every time you say

              You libs are so full of western propaganda

              And then immediately unironically say

              Try our propaganda instead!

              And then you proceed to flame whoever doesn’t agree with you? Then you expect us to read your “proof”?

              What’s the point? I’m not allowed to have an opinion different than yours here without getting this this treatment either way? So why would I go out of my way to read your material?

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                First of all you came in here in bad faith talking about some “ban me”, showing that you were never interested in any actual engagement. Then when asked crucial questions you dodged them and then complained that you’re being treated poorly for having a different opinion.

                Second, your “different opinion” is misinformed. You can’t even answer the aformentioned basic questions regarding the coup in Ukraine in 2014. This plus your continued framing off Russia as the aggressor proves you don’t know what you’re talking about.

                Lastly, if you “won’t” engage, won’t learn, then why are you even here?

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                To not remain ignorant? Everything is propaganda, it’s propagating an idea, also you’ve been at this for hours apparently when you could’ve been reading instead???

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            dude are you illiterate it was barely 2 paragraphs worth

            this “ban me ban me ban me u won’t” hissy fit is extremely pathetic, you need to get a fucking life.

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              I’m glad the mods haven’t banned this loser yet. Too pathetic to even be worth a ban, and it’s funny watching him twist himself in knots demanding a ban so he can jerk himself off over how persecuted he is.

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                No, I chose not to read what is, unironically, a hissyfit

                oh no did the mean words hurt your feelings? Its the internet kid, get a grip. Dude are you just going to sit here basically saying “no u, mods ban me im so smug” like you have for the last fucking half hour or are you going to GO OUTSIDE LIKE A NORMAL PERSON.

                but while we’re on the topic of ukraine, How’d that counter-offensive go btw?

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                  No, I’m actually just going to leave and let your community continue doing what it does best: cry into the wind with your 6 other comrades about how the world totally different you guys

                  Later, tater ✌️

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                    See, was it so hard to listen to me? Run outside like the big kids. Make sure not to trip and scrape a knee ok? I’ll call you when dinner is ready.

                    so long, ding dong 🤙 😎

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          Joining a mutual defense agreement is not at all holding the gun. Also, NATO didn’t even consider Ukraine until well after Russia invaded.

          You have to be pretty deep into the rabbit hole before you can say that Ukraine is the aggressor here.

          Not that this conjecture matters, hit me with a soyjack

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          While their cities are being destroyed and their people are being slaughtered?

          But wait, they clearly asked for total war. My bad

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            While their cities are being destroyed and their people are being slaughtered?

            literally the donbass for 8 years while you said and did absolutely nothing

            its not like you even care, you like politics because you like arguing with people so that you feel your pathetic existence is finally acknowledged. You need help.