Honestly, MLs tend to do this with a lot of convos, I feel.

  • Life2Space@lemmygrad.ml
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    This argument also seems pretty logically sound.

    I think that the discussion around the abolition of pornography is so difficult for men to talk about as we - most of us - want to see pretty, naked girls; however, for the sake of public harmony, it’s probably something that just has to be accepted.

    It’s the same thing for meatless diets, as well.

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      I do not want to see pretty, naked girls. I’m gay. I want to see big burly men. Well toned and naturally athletic men, pretty naked men.

      Me enjoying this on my own time does not lead me to view the people around me as objects of desire. That would be sick, demeaning, and exploitative.

      Eradicating porn in the way you describe would be impossible. Further, how are artists going to learn anatomy? Every single art program will teach the nude form. Would those artists practice sketches be considered porn? What if they masturbated to it? Are medical textbooks that show the nude figure sexual? Are historical paintings of people having sex now porn?

      This entire concept seems extremely utopian and idealist with no realistic way of being accomplished.

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      I don’t feel like I want that because I don’t view other people in a sexual way. My goal is that other people ought to be viewed as people but not as “pretty, naked girls”. I think a lot of people care more about their immediate satisfaction than about the general consequences of their actions and the things that their actions promote. I, at this point, don’t really talk about my opposition to it very often because so many other people defend it I find it easier to not talk about. I find it interesting what you say about men not wanting to talk about it because I do think that’s true online. But in person I find most people, if it’s being discussed (that I’m around at least) are very very agaisnt it and openly against the people that consume it.