I had deleted my comment as I didn’t like how I’d phrased some of it but you’ve managed to see it and reply, so I’ll address one of the points.
This seems to be the root of it:
defense of America’s brutality.
I don’t know how you’re getting that from what was said. But nevermind, my issue is with the way that you challenge ComradeSalad. I think you’ve missed the mark because they don’t say what you think they are saying, and so you aren’t tackling the argument but the tone of it.
‘this is all in your mind’ … ‘panicky attempt’
Seems to me that you’re questioning ComradeSalad’s state of mind, repeatedly, to dismiss what they’re saying. And you’ve doubled down, whether you realise it or not:
‘over the top histrionic defence’ … ‘extreme emotional reaction’ … ‘raging defence’ …
You might not be doing this on purpose but casting doubt on someone’s emotional/mental state to discredit what they’re saying is ableist. It relies on a model of mental capacity that is used to deny autonomy to people. You might be writing just one comment but some of it’s premises rest on that ableist system.
Coming at this with relatively little knowledge, I was curious, so it didn’t come across as screeching or sneering.
Please don’t attempt this conflation. I characterised their angry response as a whole a “screeching”. I characterised this sentence as “sneering”, please don’t misrepresent me.
This is pedantic. I’m talking about your comment as a whole, with that sentence as an example. The ‘screeching’ is also another example of the above, re: emotional state.
Since we’re taking everything extremely literally here, as if this is a court of law. I take your accusation very seriously.
You’re taking this the wrong way. I’m saying all this because you need to reflect on how you’re talking to others. I wouldn’t be saying all this if you had made an argument that focused on the substance of the OP. You don’t have to agree with it. But you can’t interpret it in a different way to the OP and others (me included, although you seem to disbelieve or question me) and then attack their mental state. It’s not on.
You might not be doing this on purpose but casting doubt on someone’s emotional/mental state to discredit what they’re saying is ableist.
This is a disgrace. Shame on you. I won’t be engaging with you any further you dishonest liar. This has been one of the weirdest threads I’ve ever seen on here, let alone taken part in. Trying to twist words and weaponise ableism to “win” an argument. Go back to reddit.
You need to take a step back and look at this from another perspective. You’re just coming across like a massive fuckwad with 0 ability for self reflection.
Bring an argument otherwise you’re worse than what you’re accusing me of being. This is a place for discussion, if you don’t want to take part then just stay quiet.
I had deleted my comment as I didn’t like how I’d phrased some of it but you’ve managed to see it and reply, so I’ll address one of the points.
This seems to be the root of it:
I don’t know how you’re getting that from what was said. But nevermind, my issue is with the way that you challenge ComradeSalad. I think you’ve missed the mark because they don’t say what you think they are saying, and so you aren’t tackling the argument but the tone of it.
Seems to me that you’re questioning ComradeSalad’s state of mind, repeatedly, to dismiss what they’re saying. And you’ve doubled down, whether you realise it or not:
You might not be doing this on purpose but casting doubt on someone’s emotional/mental state to discredit what they’re saying is ableist. It relies on a model of mental capacity that is used to deny autonomy to people. You might be writing just one comment but some of it’s premises rest on that ableist system.
This is pedantic. I’m talking about your comment as a whole, with that sentence as an example. The ‘screeching’ is also another example of the above, re: emotional state.
You’re taking this the wrong way. I’m saying all this because you need to reflect on how you’re talking to others. I wouldn’t be saying all this if you had made an argument that focused on the substance of the OP. You don’t have to agree with it. But you can’t interpret it in a different way to the OP and others (me included, although you seem to disbelieve or question me) and then attack their mental state. It’s not on.
This is a disgrace. Shame on you. I won’t be engaging with you any further you dishonest liar. This has been one of the weirdest threads I’ve ever seen on here, let alone taken part in. Trying to twist words and weaponise ableism to “win” an argument. Go back to reddit.
You need to take a step back and look at this from another perspective. You’re just coming across like a massive fuckwad with 0 ability for self reflection.
Likewise dickhead.
Bring an argument otherwise you’re worse than what you’re accusing me of being. This is a place for discussion, if you don’t want to take part then just stay quiet.