Thierry Henry, Clint Dempsey and Charlie Davies discussing perception of American players in Europe
Read that a few years ago. Now, I’ve only been following football since '07 which is around the time time Dempsey made his move to Fulham. He was a thrill to watch and I’d reckon he def helped change some opinions around US players at the time with the likes of Pulisic or McKennie continuing to this day.
But just curious for a discussion, how prevalent are the stereotypes of US players today? Is it simply just banter or are there still managers who just don’t rate US players all that much.
This post is an automated archive from a submission made on /r/PremierLeague, powered by Fediverser software running on alien.top. Responses to this submission will not be seen by the original author until they claim ownership of their alien.top account. Please consider reaching out to them let them know about this post and help them migrate to Lemmy.
Lemmy users: you are still very much encouraged to participate in the discussion. There are still many other subscribers on !premierleague@soccer.forum that can benefit from your contribution and join in the conversation.
Reddit users: you can also join the fediverse right away by getting by visiting https://portal.alien.top. If you are looking for a Reddit alternative made for and by an independent community, check out Fediverser.
Here’s a link for those like me that don’t want to give the assholes at Daily Mail any clicks:
You would think with the American fan base there would be a bias to play Americans more. I don’t think there’s prejudice against them, they’re just not that good.
There’s stereotypes in the media for sure. Hard to say if there’s any active stereotypes or prejudice against US players in the management and coaching world since most people are not in it.
However, you have to think that if you’re good enough then you’ll play. Every player, regardless of nationality, has to fight for their place and the US just don’t produce world class players for the very top level.
I would say not against players. But more so agaisnt commentators, pundits, and supporters/fans. Kind of the ah what does he know, hes american attitude.
I’m just glad we don’t have the Pulisic nuthuggers polluting our sub anymore
Charlie Davies does not speak for my nation please
I don’t think anyone really judges players based on their nationalities any more.
I wouldn’t say there is a stereotype about the players at all, apart from not producing as much talent as they probably could. If you’re good enough you’re good enough, the PL has players from all over the world.
About the fans and analysis though…
When I was a kid in middle america in the 80s, the lack of american involvement had nothing to do with Europe. Americans hated the game. I remember the adults always telling me it isnt a sport. and its so boring, and play a real sport. It was also an immigrant sport and this is america. you play an american sport. Heck, there are still multitudes of americans who believe this today. there is just a large enough echo chamber that we dont have to acknowledge it.
I dont blame europeans at all for their “prove it” attitude. we have had generations to embrace the sport. now that it is finally happening, our young people need to realize that this is a calcified problem that we created.
Banter mostly. I will say Pulisic kinda didn’t do Americans any favors when he was critical of Tucel and all his father drama and the book he wrote.
You dont know where im from dawg
Still waiting for a really top US player. I thought we’d have seen one by now.
I wouldn’t say much at all tbh. There’s a US International playing for Crystal Palace Today and most probably don’t even know that he is. Pulisic was considered decent when Chelsea signed him. Tyler Adams had interest in the Summer. Dempsey, McBride etc were always considered to be solid Premier League players. Not to mention the amount of quality GK’s we’ve seen.
Was there ever really much noise about players from the US to begin with though? I’d say it’s been more around owners and managers. The media have had digs at the likes of Lerner, Kroenke, Boehly etc and Bob Bradley had a lot surrounding him. The players? Not so much…
Ready for downvotes?
Yea we are bad, very bad. We don’t play well together, way to many back passes, horrible in front of goal, don’t put teams to the sword that we should, management and coaching is garbage, BUT we will get good at this sport, very good. Then we will dominate.