The only thing that could really exist in a full communist society is one person businesses and not even that really. Historically full communism hasn’t resulted in a cultural boom like you expect, the USSR was a shit hole and people just worked and bought food - there wasn’t anything else to do.
Huh, somebody tell Mosfilm that they didn’t exist. They’ll be surprised. Speaking from one’s ass is generally considered rude. Next you’re gonna tell us they didn’t go to space or develop cool linear programming algorithms or other advanced research. Never change, Redditor.
Indeed. One of the best films ever produced, Come and See from 1985, was produced by Mosfilm. There’s seemingly some confusion where expensive must mean quality, and it can’t be quality unless it’s expensive. That’s utter nonsense: the highest grossing movies are bullshit propaganda Marvel movies that have no lasting value; and some of the best and most lasting films, such as Come and See, made “only” $21M at the box office and so would be considered a flop.
Profit motive in entertainment kills creativity, because creativity (as risk) is potentially costly, and not guaranteed money. Profit motive finds a profitable “script” (see the Marvel franchise) and just prints it in a thousand different fonts and calls it a thousand successful films.
That’s utter nonsense: the highest grossing movies are bullshit propaganda Marvel movies that have no lasting value;
One of the last Yankee movies I’ve watched was “Marriage Story” and even though it was a bit on the expensive side due to the cast and I didn’t even love it, it did shine a huge light on “why don’t I like Yankee movies” when everything I was used to coming out of that is just Transformers-level. There’s a reason that little games like Undertale and Minecraft are so much more beloved than big budget hype-garbage like Cyberpunk. Capitalism ruins art, that’s why artists hate it.
God I miss when Minecraft was a small game, Microsoft stuffed it full of greedy DLC and made Bedrock version (which was designed to be the “faster” Minecraft ) so slow from the bloat that the Switch version is damn near unplayable now
I have never moved on from version 1.5.2 ever since my favourite modder from the “Better Than Wolves” mod decided to stay in that version. Some 8 years later when I finally got coerced into playing the 1.15 it just felt like the game completely stagnated both technically and artistically and was just adding fluff to maintain engagement. It used to run on my old 32 bit Pentium with 4GB RAM like a breeze, but oh wow, bees! The Nether update was fun I guess, but I’ve seen better mods in like 2014.
I refuse to run the bedrock edition on the simple principle that it’s not moddable and doesn’t run on Linux and at that point it’s the opposite of why I even bought the game back in the day. Every Microsoft decision with it since buying Mojang, from bankrupting Telltale to keeping two parallel minecraft main versions, to whatever the hell was Minecraft Dungeons/Legends, is a great case study in enshitification by itself. If I get triggered enough I may even do a write-up on it in the weekend lol.
Looks like a tiny fraction to me, on a tiny scale. Most expensive soviet film was War and Peace (1967) which cost 8 mill rubbles or $75 million in today’s currency. And that’s with top earners in the USSR earning around 500-1000 rubbles a month, most around 100-300/month. Most movies could not be made in a society where there is zero extra money and wages are so high, investors wouldn’t invest and there wouldn’t be any startup capital.
I’d still rather a mix of capitalism and socialism with good production value.
Your claim was that there was no entertainment. I showed you a page that shows around 10-20 national films per year in the 20th century. That’s a lot of film. Now you’re deflecting to say that the films are bad because their budget is low. First you’re gonna have to show that expensive movies are automatically good given how shit every Marvel movie since Iron Man 1 has been, specially compared with the lower budget stuff like Jessica Jones. Then you’re gonna have to show movies from the time of War and Piece in the USA that are actually so “superior” on quality and and budget.
You seem to still be insisting on “investors” as though they are necessary. Once a movie has sold well it can finance the following movies by itself without being tied down to some disconnected rich AMPTP CEO who won’t pay his writers and actors. “Most movies” actually have very small budgets, for obvious reasons and you’ll hardly find movies that cost hundreds of millions in film festivals. The vast majority of art is actually cheaply produced even in capitalism, just look at deviantart, steam, itch, youtube.
Why do you want to be your society to still be ruled by investors? You do know that if they can have 10% of the economy they’ll try to get 20%, right? How many 2008s and 2020s do you need to learn?
I’d still rather a mix of capitalism and socialism with good production value.
I also drink my water with oil. Soap blends it very well.
Huh, somebody tell Mosfilm that they didn’t exist. They’ll be surprised. Speaking from one’s ass is generally considered rude. Next you’re gonna tell us they didn’t go to space or develop cool linear programming algorithms or other advanced research. Never change, Redditor.
Indeed. One of the best films ever produced, Come and See from 1985, was produced by Mosfilm. There’s seemingly some confusion where expensive must mean quality, and it can’t be quality unless it’s expensive. That’s utter nonsense: the highest grossing movies are bullshit propaganda Marvel movies that have no lasting value; and some of the best and most lasting films, such as Come and See, made “only” $21M at the box office and so would be considered a flop.
Profit motive in entertainment kills creativity, because creativity (as risk) is potentially costly, and not guaranteed money. Profit motive finds a profitable “script” (see the Marvel franchise) and just prints it in a thousand different fonts and calls it a thousand successful films.
One of the last Yankee movies I’ve watched was “Marriage Story” and even though it was a bit on the expensive side due to the cast and I didn’t even love it, it did shine a huge light on “why don’t I like Yankee movies” when everything I was used to coming out of that is just Transformers-level. There’s a reason that little games like Undertale and Minecraft are so much more beloved than big budget hype-garbage like Cyberpunk. Capitalism ruins art, that’s why artists hate it.
God I miss when Minecraft was a small game, Microsoft stuffed it full of greedy DLC and made Bedrock version (which was designed to be the “faster” Minecraft ) so slow from the bloat that the Switch version is damn near unplayable now
I have never moved on from version 1.5.2 ever since my favourite modder from the “Better Than Wolves” mod decided to stay in that version. Some 8 years later when I finally got coerced into playing the 1.15 it just felt like the game completely stagnated both technically and artistically and was just adding fluff to maintain engagement. It used to run on my old 32 bit Pentium with 4GB RAM like a breeze, but oh wow, bees! The Nether update was fun I guess, but I’ve seen better mods in like 2014.
I refuse to run the bedrock edition on the simple principle that it’s not moddable and doesn’t run on Linux and at that point it’s the opposite of why I even bought the game back in the day. Every Microsoft decision with it since buying Mojang, from bankrupting Telltale to keeping two parallel minecraft main versions, to whatever the hell was Minecraft Dungeons/Legends, is a great case study in enshitification by itself. If I get triggered enough I may even do a write-up on it in the weekend lol.
Looks like a tiny fraction to me, on a tiny scale. Most expensive soviet film was War and Peace (1967) which cost 8 mill rubbles or $75 million in today’s currency. And that’s with top earners in the USSR earning around 500-1000 rubbles a month, most around 100-300/month. Most movies could not be made in a society where there is zero extra money and wages are so high, investors wouldn’t invest and there wouldn’t be any startup capital.
I’d still rather a mix of capitalism and socialism with good production value.
Your claim was that there was no entertainment. I showed you a page that shows around 10-20 national films per year in the 20th century. That’s a lot of film. Now you’re deflecting to say that the films are bad because their budget is low. First you’re gonna have to show that expensive movies are automatically good given how shit every Marvel movie since Iron Man 1 has been, specially compared with the lower budget stuff like Jessica Jones. Then you’re gonna have to show movies from the time of War and Piece in the USA that are actually so “superior” on quality and and budget.
You seem to still be insisting on “investors” as though they are necessary. Once a movie has sold well it can finance the following movies by itself without being tied down to some disconnected rich AMPTP CEO who won’t pay his writers and actors. “Most movies” actually have very small budgets, for obvious reasons and you’ll hardly find movies that cost hundreds of millions in film festivals. The vast majority of art is actually cheaply produced even in capitalism, just look at deviantart, steam, itch, youtube.
Why do you want to be your society to still be ruled by investors? You do know that if they can have 10% of the economy they’ll try to get 20%, right? How many 2008s and 2020s do you need to learn?
I also drink my water with oil. Soap blends it very well.
You cannot mix Capitalism and Socialism, they are fundamentally incompatible