Podcast Doug and car guy Doug is way way better than used car salesman Doug.

I know this sub has cooled on him and Matt is well Matt but honestly this was one of the best car related listens for me this year.

I also love it when throttle house goes on smoking tire podcast.

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      His review of his thanksgiving in Tennessee is exactly what bugs me about him. He gets more condescending the older he gets.

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      Really? He seems incredibly honest and often talks about the mental health demons he deals with. For a guy that grew up in a wealthy household, he clearly busts his ass and seems like a decent dude.

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          He might be a nepo baby but at the end of the day he isn’t some fucking bum. Running a business rich or poor isn’t an easy thing to do.

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      I honestly disagree. Farrah to me has always been a “no bullshit, straight to the point” car guy who is also rich, and has no issues casually speaking on his wealth when the time is appropriate. I don’t know about his political views, but in terms of purely speaking on cars and what makes them tick, he and Zach are two of the best people to listen to imo.

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        I’ve listened to him a lot and honestly his political views are very down to earth. He regularly acknowledges that the situation for a lot of people right now is tough, and way too much money is in the hands of very few people.

        It can get tough to listen to people casually talk about throwing around 10s of thousands of dollars but thats the car hobby I guess. Matt though takes every opportunity to point out inequality without being too much of a downer imo

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          It’s not hard to connect the dots when people bring up his political views. Usually they use the excuse of “I listen to this podcast to escape politics”. And like to shout about his hypocrisy. Cause you know he’s a rich car guy who cares about the environment and complains about tax codes benefitting the wealthy.

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            Usually they use the excuse of “I listen to this podcast to escape politics”.

            Terrible take. No, this is not why people don’t like listening to his political views.

            I really enjoy his podcasts and videos, but whenever politics comes up it’s by far the worst part about his entire platform and extremely insufferable for two reasons. Note that this is coming from someone who agrees with the majority of his political views too.

            1. His content is not political content so he should stay in his lane unless he puts effort in. If he wants to not do that and talk about politics, honestly that’s not even a problem, but then he should be setting up the stage to actually talk politics. He doesn’t set up the stage for an actual discussion or his viewpoint to be challenged. He just makes strong statements and either has people on who already agree or kind of strong-arms them into not saying anything by being combative with his statements.
            2. Whenever politics comes up, he often has the insufferable attitude that is prevalent on the internet, where he will take the opposing argument in bad faith, and present it as “I’m a good person for having this viewpoint - you’re a bad person if you have the other viewpoint.” It comes across as insecure and also contributes to the current social disaster of radical tribalism due to social media, which is just ironic in of itself to call others bad people while being a person with influence contributing to damaging the fabric of society.
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                I mean if you want to cherry pick a specific phrasing I used instead of addressing the main point, then you should reconsider what your point even is or if you’re just having an emotional moment and felt the need to have a Redditor take and make a flippant gotcha comment to feel good about yourself.

                I don’t like it when Matt has self-righteous and judgmental moments where he attacks people who hold the opposing belief, and not the argument itself, that don’t agree with his stance on certain political topics. It’s disrespectful, and yelling it out in spaces where no one will rebut is cowardly.

                Saying “I agree with doing A over B” is respectful to people who believe the opposite and then moving on to his cars topic is fine. Saying “We should do A and people who want to do B are terrible people” is not respectful. It’s his platform and he can say the latter if he wants, but it’s just very obviously distasteful to simultaneously be so adamant and assertive in your stance that you dehumanize others with a different opinion, yet never open himself up for said views to be challenged respectfully as a topic. Simply put, “don’t dish it out if you can’t take it”.

                It’s especially unpalatable given that a lot of the time for how judgmental he comes off you can find examples of him being a hypocrite to his own stances, as other people in this topic have given.

                If you think this type of behaviour is acceptable just because the stances he’s taking are ones you agree with, then you need to go touch grass and get off social media echo chambers.

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              Stick to cars car monkey!!!1! God it’s so tired. Cars are (very) political and unfortunately politics are important and relevant to car culture.

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                I mean if you want to cherry pick a specific phrasing I used instead of addressing the main point, then you should reconsider what your point even is or if you’re just having an emotional moment and felt the need to have a Redditor take and make a flippant gotcha comment to feel good about yourself.

                I don’t like it when Matt has self-righteous and judgmental moments where he attacks people who hold the opposing belief, and not the argument itself, that don’t agree with his stance on certain political topics. It’s disrespectful, and yelling it out in spaces where no one will rebut is cowardly.

                Saying “I agree with doing A over B” is respectful to people who believe the opposite and then moving on to his cars topic is fine. Saying “We should do A and people who want to do B are terrible people” is not respectful. It’s his platform and he can say the latter if he wants, but it’s just very obviously distasteful to simultaneously be so adamant and assertive in your stance that you dehumanize others with a different opinion, yet never open himself up for said views to be challenged respectfully as a topic. Simply put, “don’t dish it out if you can’t take it”.

                It’s especially unpalatable given that a lot of the time for how judgmental he comes off you can find examples of him being a hypocrite to his own stances, as other people in this topic have given.

                If you think this type of behaviour is acceptable just because the stances he’s taking are ones you agree with, then you need to go touch grass and get off social media echo chambers.

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              One example is he was bragging to Doug in an earlier podcast how he should fly private and how great it is etc. but then complained about others doing so for environmental reasons, he’s extremely wealthy (from a trust fund/parents) but constantly complains about the “wealthy” while doing many of the things he complains about. In the recent podcast he took a jab at people who buy new cars due to environmental impact even though he special ordered a car and had it shipped over that literally burned in the middle of the ocean and had to order another. I think he’s just out of touch and tries to pander

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          without being too much of a downer

          I think this tends to grate on a lot of Reddit-like audiences. A lot of people seem weirdly hostile to anybody who expresses optimism in political topics.

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        Him and Zack are genuinely lovely people.

        Yes, Farah is a pretty wealthy guy, but he isn’t out of touch and totally acknowledges how lucky he is.

        I did that NZ road trip with them and they were such great folks to work with even though we were on a very tight budget, and they still make time to hang out with me if I’m ever in LA.

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        Totally agreed. Yes he is super privileged and comes from big money but at least he acknowledges it. He’s not one of these insanely loaded out of touch pricks who has no concept of struggle or having to work for money.

        His niche is definitely expensive performance and luxury cars so maybe that makes his target audience wealthier than most, but I think he still has a good sense for quality and value for money at lower price points.

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        Yeah I’m with you (and a lot of the other comments on this thread looks like), I’d way rather someone be direct and straightforward about the face that they’re privileged vs the obviously fakey “I came from nothing and now I got my Ferrari etc etc” that I feel like car social media leans on so often.

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      Really have not noticed this at all. Very self deprecating and aware of his place of privilege. Do you actually listen to TST?

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      He’s always been. He’s a nepo baby. One of his first reviews that went viral was a Datsun kit car that resembled a Ferrari 250. Matt told the audience that it was a real Ferrari. He told people that he saw the engine and it’s a v12. Viewers said no it clearly sounds like a 6 cylinder Datsun. Matt said that’s because rhe camera in the exhaust clip was on one side of the car so you’re only hearing 6 of the cylinders. People continued to rip him saying he’s clueless and drove a Datsun with a 6 cylinder. Matt eventually admitted he was misled and lied to everyone about seeing the engine. Then he did a dirty delete and wiped the video from the internet

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      Yeah, he’s super insecure and a massive hypocrite, makes me cringe every time he opens his mouth

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      You guys talk about these people like they aren’t actually people. They’re just normal guys who make content. Both Matt and Doug post on this sub. Don’t be an asshole