Every post on Tesla v IF Metall you dont have to look too far before you see a highly upvoted comment that is stating a lot of things based on preconcieved notions of Unions Vs Anti-union company. Its clear most people here dont really understand what is going on, myself included to be fair.
I think everyone here can agree on good outcomes for the workers. So I’m curious what outcomes the Union want to achieve and what their motivations are.
I’ve herd people suggest Tesla just pull out of Sweden and that would be fine by the union. There are suggestions that the union is hell bend on setting an example with Tesla; that if they dont Unionize, others may realize they dont want to either. These are not good outcomes for the workers; rather good outcomes for Union Leadership who want to hold on to power.
In the end, it would be great if they let workers at Tesla decide; hold a vote and if the majority want to Unionize, they should be allowed to.
This has nothing to do with a majority of workers. No worker ever has to join a union and unions here aren’t company-based, they’re based on the trade sector. All it takes for unions to request a CBA to be agreed upon is for one single worker to complain to the union.
How hard is it to understand that not everything works the same way as it does in your country?
It’s not about unionizing. You don’t unionize in Sweden. Our unions cover sectors.
It’s about the collective agreement. This is the standard here in Sweden. Basically a company will negotiate with a union and they will set the minimum pay and all of the benefits for a period. Usually 4 years then they renegotiate. When a company has signed a CBA then it’s illegal for workers to strike.
This creates a more even playing field and gets rids of worker abuse. While creating stability in the market. Something that had worked for hundred not thousands of companies here in Sweden for over 100 years.
Well, I think it’s the majority of the workers in the bodyshop wanted to join IF Metall but Tesla is not allowing it. Why vote for something when most of the employees already petitioned for it?
Is that true? I see contradictory statements sometimes. Supposedly the workers are happy with their situation and aren’t joining the strike. Would love to see sources that refute that; it’s hard to get facts from a different country in a different continent.
Every post on Tesla v IF Metall you dont have to look too far before you see a highly upvoted comment that is stating a lot of things based on preconcieved notions of Unions Vs Anti-union company. Its clear most people here dont really understand what is going on, myself included to be fair.
I think everyone here can agree on good outcomes for the workers. So I’m curious what outcomes the Union want to achieve and what their motivations are.
I’ve herd people suggest Tesla just pull out of Sweden and that would be fine by the union. There are suggestions that the union is hell bend on setting an example with Tesla; that if they dont Unionize, others may realize they dont want to either. These are not good outcomes for the workers; rather good outcomes for Union Leadership who want to hold on to power.
In the end, it would be great if they let workers at Tesla decide; hold a vote and if the majority want to Unionize, they should be allowed to.
This has nothing to do with a majority of workers. No worker ever has to join a union and unions here aren’t company-based, they’re based on the trade sector. All it takes for unions to request a CBA to be agreed upon is for one single worker to complain to the union.
How hard is it to understand that not everything works the same way as it does in your country?
It’s not about unionizing. You don’t unionize in Sweden. Our unions cover sectors.
It’s about the collective agreement. This is the standard here in Sweden. Basically a company will negotiate with a union and they will set the minimum pay and all of the benefits for a period. Usually 4 years then they renegotiate. When a company has signed a CBA then it’s illegal for workers to strike.
This creates a more even playing field and gets rids of worker abuse. While creating stability in the market. Something that had worked for hundred not thousands of companies here in Sweden for over 100 years.
Well, I think it’s the majority of the workers in the bodyshop wanted to join IF Metall but Tesla is not allowing it. Why vote for something when most of the employees already petitioned for it?
Is that true? I see contradictory statements sometimes. Supposedly the workers are happy with their situation and aren’t joining the strike. Would love to see sources that refute that; it’s hard to get facts from a different country in a different continent.