Speaking with special counsel Jack Smith’s team earlier this year, former Vice President Mike Pence offered harrowing details about how, in the wake of the 2020 presidential election, then-President Donald Trump surrounded himself with “crank” attorneys, espoused “un-American” legal theories, and almost pushed the country toward a “constitutional crisis,” according to sources familiar with what Pence told investigators.
The sources said Pence also told investigators he’s “sure” that – in the days before Jan. 6, 2021, when a violent mob tried to stop Congress from certifying the election – he informed Trump he still hadn’t seen evidence of significant election fraud, but Trump was unmoved, continuing to claim the election was “stolen” and acting “recklessly” on that “tragic day.”
Then he said he will still vote for and support theRump. Lack of balls is a virtue in modern Republican Party
I just wanna throw TRAMP on the pile of nicknames
How many tyrants can Chaplin get confused for?
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I always think of it this way.
Pence’s ‘spontaneous’ walkout when the bad football man didn’t salute the flag took weeks of planning.
If he’d put a fraction of that effort into denouncing the coup planners before January 6 he’d have saved the country.
Yes but how would that have helped Mike Pence? /s
He’d be the front runner in the GOP primaries?
That’s with the hindsight of Jan 6 being a complete failure. They will always jump to the winning side the moment it becomes apparent.
Dan Quayle had to convince him to certify the votes. He was seriously considering going along with the fraud…
DAN QUAYLE MAY BE NO JFK, BUT THANK OUR SWEET ASS HE IS DAN QUAYLE
Man, NO ONE who was sentient during the Bush Sr administration saw this coming. All I remember about Dan Quayle was him getting pilloried on SNL, repeatedly, for being almost too stupid to breathe – either completely absent from the national conversation or getting mocked – and here he is saving the country.
I did not see that coming at all. Glad and very, very relieved the jokes were wrong.
I hate defending anything pence does but it’s pretty common to seek advice like that for major decisions. If only to gain support for your decision later.
They all know what’s coming and yet they’ll still vote for that fucker.
Every flavor of right-wing blowhard thinks they can ride the fascism and come out on top.
Pence is even more delusional than most since he had a large and vocal crowd of fascists hunting him down to hang him. His reaction: why alienate potential allies?
Apparently it’s more important for their team to win.
Which describes almost every politician and political party on the earth rn.
And that fucking sucks for us.
It makes me crazy how self-serving these depraved assholes are.
Like any normal human being, even shitty ones, have some sense of duty to the country.
This motherfucker^1 could have taken the tiniest action against his own self-interest to prevent Trump from getting away with…well anything during his presidency. Instead he sat on his smarmy, power-hungry, self-serving ass and watched as it all happened and then offered a bit of testimony long after. Probably not out of any sense of obligation to the countr but purely to avoid being labeled an insurrectionist so he could maybe run for president or some shit.
We have got to fight to get money out of politics and get honest, stand up people running for office. Locally to start with them at the state level. Eventually national. And to give them a chance we need to pass some kind of voting reform like ranked choice or star voting in every state. Once you break the power of the two party system there’s a better chance, I think, of decent people running for office and getting elected.
- I suppose I can use this term literally…
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Despite how much I agree, I think there’s one point worth driving home.
They ARE normal human beings. That’s the entire problem. Normal human variety includes self centered pieces of shit as much as it includes selfless heros.
That’s why voting and staying involved in politics matters. If you aren’t constantly trying to keep these assholes out of power, you lose.
Don’t fall for the comfortable lie that genocide and dictators are rare and “can’t happen here”. That’s precisely how they end up happening.
well of course I’m still a republican
Hey Pence, if the crowd had been more successful when overtaking the building do you think King Trump would have erected a huge monument in your tiny little name?
So Trump is trying to convince Pence not to show up on Jan 6th. Does this imply Chuck Grassley was in in the plan?
