Hiya,

I’m wondering if anybody knows of any other brands like Eve that sell local-network-only no-cloud HomeKit products.

To make that word salad a bit clearer, I’m looking for devices that:

• work with HomeKit, either directly or over Thread or Matter.
• don’t have any mandatory cloud services from the vendor.
• don’t have any optional cloud services from the vendor.
• don’t phone home to their vendor.
• is supported as running in a VLAN with no WAN access, or can be trusted in a secure VLAN with WAN access as it won’t abuse that trust.

I’d be very interested to hear your experiences and recommendations around the above. I recognise that some devices can be run in a secured VLAN in a non-vendor recommended manner and am interested to hear about them, but the main focus of this thread is to determine if there are and brands besides Eve that explicitly manufacture “local-only” HomeKit devices.