My current employer is moving offices quite a distance. I am debating or not staying with the company based on a number of factors. One thing is due to the distance, in order to make it to the new office and back 2 days a week, I would need to charge the car to 100% especially in the winter (I am in southern Ontario) as the office does not have a charger to use.
The office is already a really significant distance from my house and I don’t want to spend an already 2 hour commute stopping at a charger on the way home.
So my real question is, is it really bad to charge to 100% twice a week or will the degradation on my battery start to worsen quicker?
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Try to find a new job or find a place closer to work, 2hr sucks.
As far as charging goes just set up your car to charge to 100% by your am leaving time. This way it is at that charge the least amount of time. Or get a model 3 with the LFP battery so you can always charge to 100%
You can charge any car to 100% as long as you want. You have 8 years if warranty ffs, use your car as you wish
Commute time sucks, but charging to 100% twice a week will not have any notable impact on your battery.
People worry about this way too much it’s almost comical now. Charge, drive enjoy
Blows my mind how many EV owners buy an EV and then proceed to be scared shitless of using them. This mentality will only drive people away from owning EVs.
This is the issue though. The days of the early adopters is coming to a close but there is still too much “complication” surrounding charge levels, charging speed and general “what do I do”
Exactly I charged 100% for a year now and never experienced any battery degradation bullshit people try to put out
yes, us mini owners understand lol. everyone else worries too much.
What car do you have? This question can’t really be answered without knowing if your car uses LFP cells. If LFP there is 100% no problem, if not there is still 100% no problem. Just don’t let it sit at 100% unused for days at a time.
I used to do it 1x/week to 100%. I could not find (additional, non-regular age related) degradation at 45k miles.
As long as you leave more or less as soon as it hits 100% I don’t see any real risks. I worry more about the extra distance this implies - ie, cycles on the battery.
Are you willing to trade 25% of your daily personal time for unpaid commute time? Have you factored in you what that commute time will do to your health & well being? Have you thought through the additional travel costs, insurance costs and depreciation of the vehicle?
Like I said, there are a lot of factors to concider and the car is just one part.
In the German studies of driving, not only did heart rate increase, but there were also electrocardiographic changes such as ST segment depressions and T-wave inversions that suggest ischemia (inadequate blood flow to the heart). In fact, when the German investigators focused on patients known to have coronary artery disease, approximately half the patients showed pathological EKG changes while driving. And in the English studies, when the drivers with heart disease showed an increase in their heart rates, they also showed an increase in ectopic heartbeats and pathological changes on their cardiograms. Moreover, occasional patients developed angina and left ventricular failure while driving.
Outside Ottawa, 45 minute drive 1 way to work. We charge to 100% all the time.
It’s fine. Teslas have gone 500,000 miles of taxi duty and supercharging hell abuse. Just use the car and stop worrying about it.
And some teslas have puked a battery far before that as has been posted here
And some cars blow motors. Range Rover had a 1 in 13 engine failure rate while under warranty 15 years ago.
It’s fine. Land rovers have gone 500,000 miles of safari duty and lubrication hell abuse. Just use the car and stop worrying about it.
Charge to 100% all the time - you won’t keep it long enough to notice. It’ll be the next owners problem.
2hrs each way?
I charge to 100 all the time. It’s not a true 100 anyway
Exactly. Every car has a buffer, you never really charge any EV to 100%
Sorry. Probably not true. I’m willing to bet the buffer on all EV’s is at the bottom and not the top. I can’t think of a single reason why having a buffer at the top is a good idea
If you look at Bjorn’s tests it’s clear there is a top buffer. It even tells you what that buffer is in %. The Kona has it at 3.5% for ex
Guys. Just charge your car and use it as you would a combustion car. I’ve been charging mine to 100% for years and the range is identical. Just use your car
Is there a chance that your employer provides some chargers/outlets?
As long as it doesn’t stay idle on 100% for more than a day, it’s fine. The battery is like a coiled spring. Having it primed for long periods of time damages it. But if you use it immediately, it’s fine.
I would say like any product, use it the way you need to use it. These things are overbuilt to be idiot-proof, 100% isn’t really 100%. It’s only on niche spaces like Reddit that we freak out about never charging more than 80% or whatever. Most people are treating these like gas cars and charging them up to 100. Will the life of the car be shorter? Maybe a little. Probably not much. I bet you lose 5 more miles of net range after 5 years or something small like that. But your car’s life will be a lot shorter if you have to sell it now rather than use it.