Just started watching and keeping up with arsenal this season. What is with them and always scoring late game? They do it pretty often. Did it against City, Brentford, Chelsea, United (twice). Is there a reason for this? They look like an entirely different team once the 80th minute hits.
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My theory is that Defending is more stressful and tiring than a possession based offense. It requires more running and more focus. Both of which get harder to do the more tired you get.
As a result they might not close down Saka quick enough so that he can get his cross off, or They just loose track of Rice on the back post and he gets a quick shot.
Another thing to think about is that a lot of teams go even more defensive in the last 15 twenty minutes of a game trying to hold a result. It means that the offensive team as a lot more chances, because the defensive team isn’t competing for possession.
They are the most dominant team in terms of field tilt and how deep the opponent sits back. Source
This means teams will be defending their own box for 80 minutes and will get tired. They are then more likely to switch off and make mistakes the longer the match goes and the more tired they become.
Another factor is that because they have a great record of scoring late on, the players will believe that they can score. The opposite is true that the opposition may believe they will concede late on because of Arsenal’s record. This was certainly the case with Manchester United under Fergie.
I love this explanation
Arsenal also have decent options on the bench to change the game tactically in their favor, with the multiple aerial threats to take advantage of their numerous set pieces that they will win due to how deep their opposition sits back.
just compared an arsenal team thats won nothing to a fergie side that dominated for seasons. Arsenal fan FC ladies and gents
Cool and nobody said anything about dominating for seasons. Bros inventing things to complain about
“teams will be scared of arsenal scoring late, much like united under fergie” - deluded arsenal fan
nobody is worried about arsenal. teams were worried about fergies united because they were a force. Arsenal are FAR FAR from that. He is wrong, and you’ve missed the point, of course
Don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone have such blind hatred in my life for any team lmao.
Yeah you’re right though, nobody is worried about arsenal hence why everyone attacks attacks attacks from the first minute of every game against them.
You’re just making yourself more angry by convincing yourself op said that arsenal are as good/better/have won or whatever argument you’re making as fergies United.
You arent very bright, are ya?
Im not mincing OP’s words. He compared this Arsenal sides Late winners to A dominant Ferguson United side. Hes an idiot much like yourself
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I’m not an Arsenal fan
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Two teams can have aspects of their team compared without equating their overall achievements and quality. To suggest otherwise is nonsensical
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Lapse in concentration of Brentfords RB. Otherwise they’d still be playing goalless.
And luck. Havertz doesn’t make that every day. Maybe 1 in 7.
On more serious note, if Brentford punished some mistakes in first half, you’d have to change the title to reason for Arsenal late game escape or smth worse.
Havertz doesn’t make that every day. Maybe 1 in 7.
Source for your statistic?
I think it is common to have goals around 15 mins towards the end.
Because arsenal have formulated a game plan that they believe will win the every game they play. They have full believe in themselves, their play style, and the commit to their training to the last minute.
They will relentlessly play Arteta’s way an Arteta will relentlessly back then and that belief and confidence trumps anything most teams have to offer againts them
It’s a tactic sourced from 1974’s Rumble in the Jungle. 🥵🥊
Random chance. That explains almost everything of this variety. People can cook up all kinds of stories, but they almost never hold up to actual analysis.
3 reasons:
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Strategy: Arsenal play the highest line and has the best defensive trio in the league (Saliba, Gabriel, Rice). That makes them the hardest team to counter.
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Tactics: Arteta has many bench options to change the tactics of the game. Very low block? Throw in Havertz and Tomiyasu, and bomb them aerially. Need players to make runs? Throw in ESR, Trossard or Vieira, and let them open up the defense.
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Confidence/concentration: The team knows they can score late, and also helps that added time tend to help Arsenal because opposition must maintain concentration over 100-110 min of game time rather than over 95 min. Harder to do that when you’re always defending than in attack.
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Fitness levels. Overall young squad.
It’s a good tactic to use when you know you have fitness and youth on your side.Play steady until the opposition start blowing then go for the jugular.
We (coaching team) used to use this with my grassroots team. We had extremely quick wide players we used to keep on the bench and unleash around 60 minutes into the game to give fullbacks nightmares. They almost always scored. Tired legs can’t compete.
Some call it luck. I call it - Arteta literally has no idea how to properly manage that squad. He runs out of ideas and then resorts to the football that lost them the title last season. And it will happen once again
Klopp will finish below Arteta again this season.
Incredibly insightful take, Arteta could learn a lot from you
Mentality monsters
Except last season tehe
They were doing the same thing last season as well. If it weren’t for some injuries to crucial players, Arsenal would have won the league.
Ex professionals say its always more tiring defending for long periods rather than attacking and as we tend to have most of the possession it puts a lot of pressure on the opposition. As they tire at the end of the game it gives us the edge to break them down.
It’s mostly about fitness of the squad. Mostly players start getting more and more tired the longer a game lasts. The Arsenal players seem to be extremely in shape and can continue even after 80 minutes, while the opponent starts to get more and more trouble keeping up the pace.
Improved mental stamina
More focus on defense and also more reliance on key attacking players to produce that one moment of brilliance to win/level the game. I think this is the vibes for this first half of the season, and maybe in Jan/Feb.
There will be a point in time Arsenal will have to play the usual attacking football, but there is a lot more game management happening atm. Hopefully saving the energy for the long season as we know what happened last season.