• ztdz800@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Yeah with a 5800x i feel like the 5800x3d is kind of a sidegrade, but if they release a 5950x3d at competitive pricing i might be tempted to spend more in am4.

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        1 year ago

        I went from 5800x to 5800x3d and have zero regrets, I felt it was a significant upgrade.

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          1 year ago

          I’m in that camp, wondering if it’s worth making the jump. I don’t play any strategy games or sim

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            1 year ago

            if you already own a 5800x it’s not worth it to spend 300$ on a 5800x3d. If you have 300$ spare, then sell your platform and buy into AM5.

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          1 year ago

          I went from a 3700x to 5800x3D and that was a big difference. I actually just recently discovered the cause of my heating too.

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        They will never release a 5950X3D there was a prototype floating around and the dual ccd cause issues with the gains you see from the cache.

        So it was axed.

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          Those issues are present on the 7900x3d and 7950x3d their driver “fixes it” and their server chips have vcache on all the ccd and work fine.

          For purely gaming those chips will always run into issues but for a power user they would work just fine

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          Not only that but these chips are probably coming from 5800X3D that don’t make it, so they can use them as lower core count chips… Can’t make them have more.

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      Another thing you sometimes see here when people bring this up is that AMD supposedly DID try to make a 5900x3d or 5950x3d but they ran into issues that made it impractical and so it was abandoned.

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      IIRC, doesn’t AMD have a very unique “5900X3D” with the V-Cache on both CCDs? I think they showed it in GN’s video when they went on the lab tour.

      • grannyte@alien.topB
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        Yes they did. Presumably it’s also the same chip that was in the initial vcache demo on stage

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        1 year ago

        The one in the GN video was a dual V-Cache 5950X3D. 192MB of total L3 and the full 16C/32T.

        • ExtendedDeadline@alien.topB
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          Sign me the hell up! One of the biggest issues with the 5950x was power draw coming up against most am4 Mobo limits. X3d tends to be geared for lower power because of cooling reasons - it might just work!

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            X3D has no issues with cooling. I wish that myth would die. The extra cache is over the existing L3 cache, not the cores. The cores have exactly the same amount of inert material above them as with the non-X3D chips.

            The chips are lower power solely because of the voltage cap, and any additional binning that said cap allows.

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      After this point I guess AMD doesn’t want to put extra expensive Zen 3 CPUs on AM4… Pricing would be an issue because the R9 5950X is at 434$ (Amazon) while the R9 7900X is at 388$ (Amazon), so unless they launch a R9 5950X3D for 400$ I don’t see a reason to launch it (Besides needing some workarounds like Game Bar to make it work alright).

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        I mean……I’d upgrade from a 5800x3D to a 5950X3D especially for the productivity without have to do a full system jump if the numbers are right.