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    The framework 16 exists in about the same spec space. Though it is quite a bit pricier, which buys you better modularity, if that’s you thing.

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      1 year ago

      you can also order every single lenovo laptop with linux preinstalled so ye idk how they came to the conclusion this is somehow the first…

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      1 year ago

      I had a razr and for all their garbage overpriced peripherals I found the blade quite nice.

      I like how it has the hardware of a gaming laptop but doesn’t go out of its way to look like “gaming laptop” (which kind of surprised me based on razrs typical designs) to me the exaggerated space ship look that they do on gaming laptops is cringe

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    1 year ago

    I’m more interested in how that gpu would perform on a windows machine but this will do.

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    1 year ago

    Not trying to be negative here but what is the appeal of buying a special “Linux laptop” as opposed to buying any windows laptop and installing Linux?

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      I have no full background on this but I think it’s performance VS price. With performance I don’t mean only fps but also abilities.

      For example, I don’t need to rent a dedicated server to host a minecraft or gta rp server and play on that server with all my friends.

      Another reason could be mods. I can imagine Linux has more to offer than windows in the future comparing the abilities. You have basically full power over everything since you are the server.

      Plus of course future development on a hot topic. VR for example is dead to me since almost five years. Many mobile VR devices run on android since they have ARM support only. Could give a glimpse in the future for VR gaming. At the end it’s opportunities to try and fail or success. You can’t do it all in the lab with a team. Sometimes it needs a greater community to achieve success. We will see what it brings.

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        My point is more that it’s very easy to install Linux on a windows laptop, (all in all 20 minutes if you include setting up the flash drive). You would get better specs for the money that way and likely a sleeker design.

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          You would get better specs for the money that way and likely a sleeker design.

          And this was my point: I highly doubt you can get a laptop with up to 96gb of ram at that price level. Feel free to prove me wrong.

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              1 year ago

              Exactly what I wrote. And again: Feel free to provide me any gaming laptop with that ability at that price level.

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              The appeal also lies in the hardware support.

              Of course you can install Linux on most typical gaming laptops and it will work fine for the most part.

              But it cannot be taken for granted, that everything can be controlled. Be it the fan control, FN keys, RGB stripes/keys, screen brightness et cetera.
              We reverse-engineer drivers and firmware to make sure, that a laptop is ~100% Linux compatible, that is the USP.

              Also, we offer Linux telephone / mail support, which is especially important for newbies and B2B customers. There are only a handful of Linux laptop vendors in the entire world that target both John Doe and B2B equally.
              If something breaks, nobody needs to crawl between forums, subreddits and figure out stuff completely on their own. We take care of it, so the customer doesn’t have to as much.

              Cloud Storage and customization options (engravings) are the icing on the top.

              We will probably never be able to compete with other brands in terms of the raw price+performance ratio - Black Friday doesn’t exist for us.
              You may find it cheaper initially, but if something breaks, costs for RMA or service in general can be higher. And in these cases, you might reach a break-even point.
              And having that security net is often worth the surcharge for many customers.

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                1 year ago

                Having linux phone support is huge, I wouldn’t have thought that would be offered. I don’t think you can even get windows phone support from most manufacturers. That is a good point with hardware support, I have mostly used thinkpads which are known to have good linux support and even then there can be weird annoying issues. I could imagine there’s more that could go wrong with a random asus/lenovo gaming laptop.

                I’d imagine it’s also nice to be able to see a review and know things like real world battery life beforehand, instead of just taking a gamble and not knowing how X windows laptop will perform. Thanks for taking the time to reply!

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    for $1800 you can get a 4080 which is probably 2x the performance of the 7600m, who in their right mind would get this???

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    i was very confused at the title thinking that there are lots of all amd laptops out there, this isnt the fiest… until i realised it said Linux

    im blind asf istg

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      1 year ago

      Everytime I Turn my laptop on I have to decline windows 11 update, I just want steam os. I’m reminded every day why I hate windows when I have to work.

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        Maybe because you’re supposed to install those security updates? lmao

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          Yeah, I changed my settings to “managed by organization” to block it automatically force installing updates in the middle of the night, which is really heinously user-hostile in general and doubly so for me since my PC is my bedroom (don’t need my computer randomly blaring the Windows boot chime in the middle of the night). But I do go through and install the updates on a regular basis.

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      It’s been so much better since they first started pushing Steam Machines almost a decade ago. Steam Deck is pushing it over the edge into the mainstream.

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        I just moved into an OLED deck and my gf was looking for a gaming pc, so she saved some money by just taking my other steam deck. It’s set up with mouse and keyboard and a monitor and she doesn’t really care about playing handheld so it worked perfect for what she wanted

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    I mean you could get an all-AMD gaming laptop in like 2009 with a Phenom II and a Mobility Radeon HD 5750

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      Yeah, one of my penguin colleagues was brave enough to put the claim into the press release. :D
      Considering the Linux laptop market, this statement does hold true! Technically though, there were of course even AMD-based MXM GPUs floating around combined with AMD CPUs.

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      1 year ago

      This brought back memories of my X4 P960 and 5650M, it was actually phenomenal at the time especially for the price.

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        They bought them a few years before that. It took them a bit to drop the ATI branding but it was all the same company.

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    We need more of these to put some serious pressure on Microsoft to stop making garbage Windows versions. Thank you Valve for showing the public (with SteamOS) that gaming on Linux is feasible and competent

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        It’s not about the stability, which is about as high as you can expect from any OS, it’s about having to deal with crapware that you’ll never use. The recent changes to comply with EU laws prove that none of it is essential.

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        My problem with windows is all the telemetry bullshit really. Just let me use my damn computer in peace. Trying to force MS accounts down your throat and constant pining back to MS servers to report my every move and sell all my data while pretending not to. I legit have packet captures on my computer and even if you go in and disable it on the registry or through group policy I assure you Windows spies on your shit.

        I don’t like it, because like Experian did in the past exposing all your identity, social, addresses, credit card info, etc. Windows leaks can do the same and you’ll be fucked even while they lie and get exposed and only recieve .25 cents from a class action lawsuit and more “windows identity monitoring” service or some shit. With Linux you don’t have to worry about any of that. That said, I do use all major OS’s as theirs pros and cons with all, but if we’re talking what we hate about windows that’s definitely one.

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        Stable, my ass. While 10 was ok, 11 is a shit show. Constantly breaking UI. Performantce isssues and bad UI design. For me, its the worse one yet.