To my knowledge, the concept of “conservatism” is the will to conserve, preserve past values that are seen as superior. While I don’t agree with this either, this community has almost exclusively posts about fearing new things and trying to show them as evil. Evil migrants, evil new generations, evil new sexualities, whatever.

I do not see any “values” in it, only fear. Rejecting migrants is not based on morals or values that are rational, but on fear. Same for the rest. Which leads to the question, what is the point of this community? It does not lead to debate, people calling it out as fascism on one side (which is quite justified as the root ideas are seemingly identical) and the other side just saying that it’s wrong and that’s it. There’s no debate of values, as there are no values to debate about.

I do not agree with the concept of conservatism, and I couldn’t care less if this place is forever doomed to be downvoted in oblivion. But if you actually want to do something else than fear-mongering, even if you insist on talking about conservatism, then maybe it would be a good idea to refocus the community on actual ideas, and not the typical far-right speeches of hatred and fear that already flood a lot of media.

Of course I believe that it would be better to reconsider opinions that basically encourage the worst of humanity; but even aside from that, there is more to do than to replace every possibility of a conversation with the (stereo)typical “immigrants bad, jesus good, gays evil” speech.

  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
    64·
    11 months ago

    To my knowledge, the concept of “conservatism” is the will to conserve

    That is not how any label has ever worked.

        • TJD@sh.itjust.works
          35·
          11 months ago

          Lmao salty you weren’t allowed to be a worthless roach over on the other c/conservative?

            • TJD@sh.itjust.works
              13·
              11 months ago

              Why are you stepping in the moderate on a community you aren’t in on an instance you aren’t on?

              • InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works@sh.itjust.works
                11·
                11 months ago

                And I usually don’t… except for the most egregious shit.

                Because Lemmy isn’t always obvious: I’m an admin of the instance you have your account on.

                As a reminder:
                The instance-wide rules apply whenever you’re logged in here, whether you interact with a local community or a federated one.
                Rules which include being respectful.
                I don’t think I need to explain how “worthless roach” doesn’t cut it.

                It’s all fairly simple, I believe you can do better.

                Hell, I remember agreeing with you earlier today about that car killswitch bullshit and pizza being obnoxious about it.

                I know you can manage to disagree with people without calling them names, even if they’re annoying.

                • TJD@sh.itjust.works
                  12·
                  11 months ago

                  I know you can manage to disagree with people without calling them names, even if they’re annoying

                  I can, but at some point, people who repeatedly refuse to extend honest discussion back no longer deserve the effort on my part.

            • InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works@sh.itjust.works
              21·
              11 months ago

              That’s not what I’m saying either.

              TJD has their own issues and they’re already on thin ice with regards to their account because of their overly aggressive behavior.

              To be fair, I don’t think you’ve stooped to their level, which I do appreciate.

              I deleted yours, not to censor what you said, but so that you wouldn’t keep getting aggressive replies from them or someone else because the whole place was a complete disaster.

              • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                3·
                11 months ago

                I blocked them immediately after reporting them. It’s such empty shitty behavior it didn’t even invite a riposte. I’ll bicker with randos over any damn thing, apparently, but when it’s just directed abuse built on nothing but ‘nuh uh,’ that’s not an argument. And if I’m not permitted to tell them where to shove it and why then the list of options is short.

                … also, once a parent comment has been deleted, the entire subthread effectively ceases to exist. Lemmy software has issues.

                • InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works@sh.itjust.works
                  2·
                  11 months ago

                  Good on you for blocking them.
                  As for them, I’ve warned them and I don’t have infinite patience.
                  I do believe they can get their shit together and manage their anger.
                  If not, well… there’s a button for that.

                  … also, once a parent comment has been deleted, the entire subthread effectively ceases to exist

                  Yea, I think it makes more sense the way it’s shown when you’re an admin:

                  (The collapsed thread is our current discussion.)