I see so much disdain for pickups here on r/cars but figured this would be a good comparison to do as these are consistently the two best selling vehicles year after year.

I’ll get the why out of the way first. I bought both of these because I’ve always liked trucks. I don’t actually need their capability anymore than I needed my C7 with the Z51 package and 3.whatever to 60/over 1G cornering capability or the 392 Hemi in my Charger that averaged worse mpg than both of these. I wanted a comfortable, large vehicle with a massive back seat and a V8. Really no justification other than I wanted it just like all of the other unnecessary vehicles I’ve owned.

These two aren’t a perfect match trim for trim but it’s relatively close. The Silverado was a 2021 LT Trail Boss 6.2L that was completely optioned out minus the sunroof. This truck had a ton of issues that GM wouldn’t acknowledge or fix and I was luckily able to sell it to Carvana for more than I paid four months and 6,500 miles later.

The F150 is a 2023 XLT 302A FX4 with the 5.0 and 3.73 electronic locking rear end.

I’ll discuss powertrains first as I’ve now owned three 6.2 LT powered vehicles and three Coyote powered vehicles. The Chevy had a better programmed transmission. It was butter smooth and never once had a rough shift even when cold. The Ford’s 10 speed is just as good once warm and you’re tipping into the throttle but will sometimes deliver a clunky shift at low speeds especially when cold.

The engine performance surprised me a bit because the difference in torque is much less pronounced here than it was between my two Mustangs and Camaro/Corvette. I credit this to the Ford’s 3.73 rear vs the Chevy’s 3.23 and the Gen 3/4 Coyotes massive power increase over the gen 1 and 2 my Mustangs had. The 6.2 has more low end. It’s noticeable but the 5.0 will easily move this truck around under 2k rpms. It’s also redlines at 6,800 rpms vs the 6.2s 5,500 and sounds so much better. Get on the gas under a bridge and the exhaust echos sound like a quieter Mustang GT. The 6.2 sounds nice too but it’s that generic truck V8 sound and no exhaust note to speak of. Just like in the cars, I think the 6.2 is the “better” engine but I’ll personally pick the Coyote every time due to that hard pull all the way to redline. I averaged 18 mpg with the Silverado and 19 in the F150 both on 93.

My Silverado had the pre refresh interior so I won’t dog on it too much. It was bad. The new design is similar ergonomically and I’ll just flat out give the interior win to the Ford. I’m trying to think of even one area I liked better in the Chevy. The column shifter was nicer than Ford’s. My F150 has the console shifter that will fold flat. I thought it was a gimmick but it came in handy when I needed to fill out paperwork. The lowered door sill and mirrors provide better visibility in the Ford. As well as the lower dash board. Seat comfort is much better. I haven’t had constant CarPlay connectivity issues or nonstop rattles like in the Chevy yet. Both have absolutely massive cabins.

Both of these trucks have their respective trick tailgates optioned. I liked the Silverado’s version better. It folded into more useful configurations and came standard with a very nice bed liner. I needed to return a damaged 7 ft barbell when I had the Silverado and the multi folding tailgate made that a breeze.

Ride and handling is pretty different. The Silverado had a smoother ride but could be bouncy on the highway. The F150 in comparison has a borderline rough ride but feels more planted and stable. The Silverado had tighter steering. By that I mean the steering ratio seems higher in the Ford.

One thing that really frustrates me about Ford is how they gatekeep options behind trim levels. The XLT is the volume trim yet you have to move up to a Lariat to get the auto 4wd and heated steering wheel. Both of which are available in the LT trim Silverado and comparable Ram.

Overall I think the Ford is the much better designed truck. I formed that opinion within 30 seconds of sitting in the driver seat and continue to feel that way every time I drive it. I do think the Silverado is good enough post refresh that it would be the better truck for someone with a different use case than me and should still be in the running.

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    If I had to get a truck it would take a lot to convince me not to buy a F-150 with a coyote under the hood due to how impressed I’ve been by the coyote in my mustang.

    And just like the mustang, if 400 HP ever gets a bit too dull and you need some spice in your life here’s a blower kit from Ford Performance with a 50 state legal CARB sticker. Nothing major, just a modest 75% power bump.

    https://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-performance-supercharger-kit-without-pro-power-onboard-5-0l-f-150/p/M6066F150SCA/

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      The thing 5.0s have been experience since 2018 is pretty abnormal oil consumption that and 14th gen/21s got cynlinder deactivation so remains to be seen how well that holds up.

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      Transmission tuning is horrendous when supercharged. You’ll want ti go the warranty void route when supercharging to fix that.

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        That’s funny because on the Mustang side of things people generally rave about the 10R80 shifting improvements with the Ford Performance tunes.

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          10r80 is a great trans, nobody really knows this but the 10 speeds in gm vehicles and fords are almost identical but the fords seem to be more reliable

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            but the fords seem to be more reliable

            Pretty much the exact opposite. r/F150 has plenty of people with 10R80 problems and needing replacements/rebuilds. The 10L90 in GM products seems to have the shift patterns optimized better and I haven’t heard of many needing work done on r/Silverado or the GM truck forums.

            Funny, given the fiasco the 8L90 was.

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              I’ve personally replaced far more Silverado transmissions than F150 so I didn’t think it was the other way around but I’m only one guy so

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            Huh? I’m a manual guy, but all I ever heard (from both sides) with the shared A10 in the Camaro and Mustang was that the Camaro tuning was far better.

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              Maybe it’s just personal opinion but I’ve always thought the silverados shit like absolute shit compared to the F150s. Then again the tuning is probably different from the full size trucks to the cars

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          It’s a shame as a I had planned on a xlt regular cab with fp700 package as a commuter. Seems like the issue is too many gears and improper programming for choosing.

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            GMCs have the same transmission and it’s excellent, purely a tuning issue by Ford. As soon as my warranty is up I’m getting mine tuned, the truck is pretty great other than the tranny.