Bet to not do that in case you get some of that on the wheel studs. Then the possibility of wheels coming loose and losing a tire becomes a thing. I’d rather have some thing seize together than fall off this is one of those things.
Actually I put grease on the studs and the wheel mounting surface whenever I replace the wheels and they don’t come loose if torqued correctly. It really prevents binding. Been doing this for over 10 years and never had a problem
Grease or oil is completely changing how the torque and that stuff works. A joint works by stretching the bolt like a rubber band and the friction under the head and between the threads keeps it from slipping.
Greasing the threads reduces the friction which greatly magnifies the torque you can apply to the stud, which means you are stretching it much farther than designed. The lower friction in the threads also means it is easier to loosen or come off completely if it gets loose.
Biggest danger is work hardening and snapping the studs off.
I used to oil mine too before I learned all of this.
Never had a stud come lose and never broke one by overtightening. I don’t even use a torque wrench, i just use my foot to press on the wrench until it feels tight enough, but not stuck - i guess years of experience teach you where the sweet spot is. On the contrary, i am having trouble getting the studs off after occasionally taking the car to a service and they put the wheels on with a pneumatic gun, that’s why i avoid these guys as much as possible and change my own wheels.
I agree your theory is correct, but in practice things proved out to be easier and good enough for practical purposes.
No. Nothing goes on mating surfaces. The friction between the wheel and the hub is what holds the load. Applying grease is a great way to put that load on the studs and snap them.
Not a problem. Just spray that drum face with fluid film before reinstalling the wheel.
@abracadabra_71 thank you!
Bet to not do that in case you get some of that on the wheel studs. Then the possibility of wheels coming loose and losing a tire becomes a thing. I’d rather have some thing seize together than fall off this is one of those things.
Actually I put grease on the studs and the wheel mounting surface whenever I replace the wheels and they don’t come loose if torqued correctly. It really prevents binding. Been doing this for over 10 years and never had a problem
Grease or oil is completely changing how the torque and that stuff works. A joint works by stretching the bolt like a rubber band and the friction under the head and between the threads keeps it from slipping.
Greasing the threads reduces the friction which greatly magnifies the torque you can apply to the stud, which means you are stretching it much farther than designed. The lower friction in the threads also means it is easier to loosen or come off completely if it gets loose.
Biggest danger is work hardening and snapping the studs off.
I used to oil mine too before I learned all of this.
Never had a stud come lose and never broke one by overtightening. I don’t even use a torque wrench, i just use my foot to press on the wrench until it feels tight enough, but not stuck - i guess years of experience teach you where the sweet spot is. On the contrary, i am having trouble getting the studs off after occasionally taking the car to a service and they put the wheels on with a pneumatic gun, that’s why i avoid these guys as much as possible and change my own wheels.
I agree your theory is correct, but in practice things proved out to be easier and good enough for practical purposes.
No. Nothing goes on mating surfaces. The friction between the wheel and the hub is what holds the load. Applying grease is a great way to put that load on the studs and snap them.
Never thought of that. I just assumed the centering hub held the weight.