Recently went to LA Auto Show. It was never world class but a decade or two ago it definitely had all mainstream German brands represented, the mainstream exotic brands (Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati) and the small market share brands like Alfa Romeo, Mitsubishi, etc. It had literally none of that. It wasn’t boring but it also wasn’t the “near-complete index of new cars for viewing” it used to be.

Do such shows still exist? Geneva and Detroit come to mind, but have they withered away too?

Maybe some lesser-known shows like Dubai, or Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, India? Mexico?

Would appreciate any input & insight

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    1 year ago

    Car shows are just another thing that the Internet has ruined/destroyed forever.

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    The uaw strike has caused the American manufacturers to pull out of all auto shows this year. The Phoenix auto show was cancelled entirely as a result of the strikes.

    I was a kid in a candy store at the 2007 Chicago Auto show. Every manufacturer had a concept car there. Players from the Bears were having meet and greets. Others were spotted getting the first look at unreleased or high end cars. It was awesome.

    By the time I’d left Chicago in 2017 it was smaller. We live in a largely digital world now. Unveiling a car at an auto show reaches far fewer people than releasing a car in some remote, luxurious or challenging location that shows off the cars intentions and capabilities.

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    I went to the industry/press day for Detroit and LA. LA was 1000x better in every way. Detroit is pretty much just the Big 3 now. I don’t think there were any significant reveals at Detroit this year either.

    LA at least had the new Santa Fe and the Lucid Gravity. It also had free tasting of Kevin Hart’s tequila on press day which was very nice.

    Autoshows as a whole are on the decline. That was the trend before the pandemic but the pandemic put several more nails in the coffin.

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      As a professional in the automotive industry, I’ve been attending many large auto shows for the past 14 years and I couldn’t agree more, they’ve all declined quite a bit. I miss when there were more concept cars and crazy designs, even if they never came to fruition it was neat to see. Nowadays I’m just like… “where’s Nissan? Where’s Honda?” Haha. :/

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    Man, the LA Auto Show has fallen far. I’ve gone every year for the past four years, and each time there were less manufacturers. This year there wasn’t even Porsche! Which is kind of weird because they unveiled the 911 Dakar at the LA Auto Show last year, I wonder why they pulled out this year.

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      To make way for Kevin Hart’s rides!

      Seriously, though, it was disappointing to not see Porsche there. That was always a highlight for me.

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      Yeah it’s brilliant, been there twice. Frankfurt is also good but the city sucks for a weekend break so its just the car show.

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    1 year ago

    The Quail at Monterey Car Week & the whole week itself is generally a pretty good place to see some grand unveilings & new car showcases.

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      Monterey Car Week, and the Porsche Rennsport Reunion totally spoiled me. The LAIAS truly seemed boring by comparison. No Porsche, BMW, Audi, Alfa, Lambo, Rolls, Ferrari…you see all those cars in Monterey.

      I even saw Frank-Steffen Walliser less than two months ago at Laguna Seca not 10 feet from me. LA really lost something with the auto show this year.

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    It’s COVID. The LA Auto Show in 2018 was legit. A lot of debuts and such. The two auto shows I’ve been to since they started after COVID have been noticeably weaker.

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    Swiss here. Last Geneva Motor Show was before Covid, since then it was cancelled. Last month the Geneve Motor Show happend to be in Qatar! WTF? But there is a silver lining: It seems the show is coming back to Geneva in March 2024, but we will have to see how many manufactures actually will show up again.

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    I think I read somewhere, brands favor to be on their own time now and so are doing their own events. It gives them better flexibility, and they can fly in people they want. Doing things on their schedule gives focus on only them, instead of fighting at shows. I see more brands fly in social media people to their events, especially to tracks or their HQ. Gives social media people something to talk about for a week on just that automaker.

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    Highly recommended the Paris motor show. Biggest in Europe for attendance and you also get to see Paris.

    I’ve been to it twice and it was fantastic. But watch out when getting tickets as its bi annual. 1 year is consumer cars, then next is commercial, so only every second year has cars.

    There is also the Frankfurt motor show, which is the biggest motor show in Europe. Its so big that each of the big German brands have their own dedicated convention centre buildings. This is also the venue most new cars are debuted in Europe.

    The only downside to Franfurt is that the city doesn’t have much to do outside the carshow unless you plan ahead and look for things.

    Both of these shows are manufacturer shows and have attendance in the hundreds of thousands.

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      Frankfurt is in Munich now and it’s not good anymore. Germans barely had cars and the rest of Europe was not there

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    This year was pretty bad. So much floor space was dedicated to test drive loops instead of more brands. Toyota has so much room they put in that sports land for kids the last 2 years.

    Last year at least Galpin brought a lot of their brands in to give some brands a presence who couldn’t be bothered to show up. They’re pretty much the only one bringing in super cars and such to fill that big room between West and South hall.