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Chelsea and Everton the “most improved” while both having a generally awful start to the season is a fun indication of how useful xG is.
I’ve always been so apprehensive at how quickly the public adopted it as the end-all-be-all stat. It’s flawed and subjective (the fact different sites have different models). It’s similar to how basketball fans use the TS% to settle debates nowadays.
I think this should be viewed at the end of the season.
Because every time I’ve watched either Everton or Chelsea they’ve looked much better than they did last season, and typically performances come before results.
But if you were to ask me the two most improved clubs in terms of performance this season I would say Chelsea and Everton, closely followed by us.
Chelsea and Everton the “most improved” while both having a generally awful start to the season is a fun indication of how useful xG is.
Except Everton have been pretty good and are easily the most underrated team in the leauge. I’d argue they were pretty unlucky and were shit aginst Luton which apparently is the only relevant game of the season for judging them on. If anything, their quality on the pitch compared with their xG is a lot more similar than when compared to how many points they’ve gained.
xG is worthless for you because you couldn’t finish of a virgin who’d been edging for 8 hours.
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Excuse me while I go die laughing
Chelsea finished 12th last season and are 10th now
Everton finished 17th last season and are 14th now without the deducted points
The teams have both improved
One of the main aspects of a good graph is that the audience should be able to easily understand the data within 30 seconds. This graph is not such a graph.
Really?
The badges are large enough to be legible without being so large their crowd each other too much.
The line is obviously connecting 2 points, one being the badge, and the change in width tells you immediately that’s it’s a progression from the thin point to the thick one. They’re also coloured well so you can immediately tell who is who.
There are lines on the background to help group without even using the axes.
You can also tell because the newly promoted sides are just the badge, so the badge has to represent this year.
Also, it says it at the top of the graph.
There is even a graphic at the top explaining this.
If it takes you more than 30 seconds to read the title, axes and look at the lines then idk what to tell you.
Could it be simpler? Sure. Is it so confusing that it should take someone who has heard about xG longer than a minute to understand? i dont think so.
Wolves heading straight to the moon 🚀🚀🚀
Brentford, Luton and Burnley be like: Imma stay here
Not brentford. It’s Sheffield United.
Well, they werent in the PL last season so not like they could move in any direction as they have nothing to compare to
Sean Dyche improving Everton in both directions, impressive stuff.
The most surprising thing upon his introduction last season, even though results didn’t go brilliantly, was that our xG shot up massively in the second half of the season. xG conceded also went up a bit I think though. So even more impressive that after he improved xG a lot in the second half of the season, this season is a massive improvement again.
Is it even an unpopular opinion to think he keeps them up even with -10 points? They look significantly better than the 3 teams closest to them.
No I think general consensus is we’re 4th most likely to go down still with a bit of a gap between us and the 3 promoted sides. The bookies have us 2/1 to go down and those 3 all odds on. But you never know, if we pick up some injuries and any one of them hit a bit of form doubts could creep back in.
Dyche is good, probably the best active English manager.
Interesting to note we’re producing less xG in attack and conceding less xG in defence, despite the general sense that Ange is less pragmatic and more daring than Conte. The eye test, and my own observation, seem to directly disagree with the underlying stats.
You’re reading it wrong. The graphic is showing increases in both
Spurs are exceeding their xG by quite a bit. But you’re also reading this wrong.
How am I reading it wrong? which direction is the line moving?
Arsenal really became defend and corners FC lol
More balls but less penetration
Severely low xG conceded doesn’t mean “defend” more of the game, on the contrary it means you have a better control of the game. You are essentially allowing fewer opportunities for the opposition to have a glimpse of your side of the pitch. Teams that defend more, often concede a big xG, and if they have good defenders then their xG per shot would be lower. But yeah, pure low xG is all about controlling the game and the ball.
It’s a joke mate, it’s obvious we don’t park the bus 😅
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Lool I’m not seeing the option in this sub
Can set it by messaging the mod bot
Such a cool way of visually putting things
So up and to the left is ideal?
No up and to the right is best, the x axis is xG conceded per game, and it’s descending
I got a feeling we just going to have plenty of draws this season.
Incredible consistency from Luton, Burnley and Sheffield
I dont know if many would have predicted Brentford having much higher xg after losing Toney to the ban. Pretty impressive.
United haven’t moved in either axis.
Consistency 👍
Fair play to Everton, knew they would perform better in Dyches first full season. Just a shame about the points deduction but they will sill stay up imo.
Really annoying they put fake axis lines in the middle of the graph
I’ve decided that they’re likely the averages and therefore not fake axis lines. Still probably should’ve been labeled but it’s also probably more obvious to someone who isn’t suffering from insomnia